March Blood Angel Roll Call
BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? BloodAngelBrotherEdward.
Brother Titus, at your service
SanguiniusII (3/22/2002 13:14).
Fear the black rage! TheEnemy
(3/22/2002 13:20).
RE: Fear
the black rage! unclecrazy (3/22/2002 13:39).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? rhombur (3/22/2002 13:24).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? unclecrazy (3/22/2002 13:35).
bump (NT)
UncleCrazy (3/23/2002 0:04).
My friends
BA UncleCrazy (3/23/2002 0:30).
"Praise be to the Winged Angel"
InquisitorDalloren (3/22/2002 14:17).
I understand
completely :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (3/22/2002 14:33).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? citrusmidget (3/22/2002 14:29).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? arbite (3/22/2002 14:31).
I Play dmon (3/22/2002 14:41).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? skip (3/22/2002 14:41).
i've just started collecting but...
angelofanarchy (3/22/2002 15:33).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? Travailler (3/22/2002 15:59).
glory to the emporer!! teeenagedirtbag
(3/22/2002 16:07).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? Legionmkv (3/22/2002 16:11).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? cutmelose (3/22/2002 16:19).
squad
sizes... BloodAngelBrotherEdward (3/22/2002 17:26).
a blast from the past, pictures
of my old blood angels aradiel69 (3/22/2002 17:44).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? warrenn (3/22/2002 17:53).
Lord Commander Zeneric, Loyal
and Ready BloodAngelsLordCommanderZeneric (3/22/2002 18:09).
well im here for the long haule!!!
baronsmeg (3/22/2002 18:31).
OOPS!!!
i forgot to actually say what army i have troble against --- it NIDS !!!
(NT) baronsmeg
(3/22/2002 18:37).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? Tycosghost (3/22/2002 18:37).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? fwaybo (3/22/2002 19:26).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? gbrlba (3/22/2002 21:13).
RE: RE:
BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? Viaraptor (3/22/2002 21:29).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? kinkosslw (3/22/2002 21:44).
an answer
to your question...... baronsmeg (3/22/2002 22:17).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? BLOODANGELOFBAAL (3/22/2002 22:24).
RE: RE:
BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? BloodAngelBrotherEdward
(3/23/2002 9:09).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? spendaddy (3/23/2002 0:59).
The Raging Angels BattleBrotherTor
(3/23/2002 2:08).
not so much a player as a... BloodAngelBrotherXeNoJaY
(3/23/2002 4:35).
How long
have you been B.A.B.X ? (NT) (NT) WarlordGarslob (3/25/2002 13:23).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? illnino (3/23/2002 5:52).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? AngeloftheBlood (3/23/2002 10:05).
any more out there? BloodAngelBrotherEdward
(3/23/2002 20:16).
Yup fdsajkl
(3/23/2002 22:23).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? BloodAngelsBrotherKalibroxin (3/24/2002
2:17).
I’m here but my allegiance has
torn at the seams! zeusss (3/24/2002 7:17).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? BloodAngelBrotherSoren (3/24/2002 8:01).
Checking in.... captainbrothertycho
(3/24/2002 15:42).
For Sanguinius gruntboy (3/25/2002
9:21).
RE: For
Sanguinius gruntboy (3/25/2002 10:47).
Can any of you lot help with my
"blood angels fluff query" thread? (NT) MantisWarrior (3/25/2002
10:59).
Sorry, "Blood Angels fluff QUESTION"
thread (NT) MantisWarrior (3/25/2002 11:00).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? jdelrio (3/25/2002 11:47).
No Subject angel (3/25/2002 13:10).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? JudgeK (3/25/2002 15:53).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? PhaseChange (3/26/2002 0:40).
Well... i am! BrotherCaptainMarius
(3/26/2002 5:01).
RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? HarryKeogh (3/26/2002 20:18).
(AKA) Brother Librarian Cassius
Mandragore (3/26/2002 21:44).
BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? . (55 Replies).
BloodAngelBrotherEdward[].
3/22/2002 12:48 (3/26/2002 21:44)
Greetings my battle brothers!
As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is, how
many Blood Angel players are
on this message board these days?
As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
PS. Here's my entry :-)
Brother Edward
1) ~ 3 years
2) no specific problems right now, always working to better my
mobile shooty game!
3) one of my best all around lists is here for your viewing pleasure
:-)
2000pt all purpose BA army
Chaplain w/ jumppack, term honors, plasma pistol
w/ DC honor guard
cost 230pts
troop 1: 8 man tac squad
1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
1 BA w/missile launcher
1 BA w/ meltagun
5 BAs w/ bolters
mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
cost 253pts
troop 2: 8 man tac squad
1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
1 BA w/missile launcher
1 BA w/ meltagun
5 BAs w/ bolters
mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
cost 253pts
troop 3: 8 man tac squad
1 sergeant
1 BA w/missile launcher
1 BA w/ plasma gun
5 BAs w/ bolters
cost 136pts
troop 4: 8 man tac squad
1 sergeant
1 BA w/missile launcher
1 BA w/ plasma gun
5 BAs w/ bolters
cost 136pts
Fast Attack 1: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
cost 65pts
Fast Attack 2: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
cost 65pts
Fast Attack 3: 6 man BA Assault Squad (Fast Attack 3)
veteran sergeant w/power weapon and jumppack
5 BAs w/ bolt pistols & CCW and jumppacks
cost = 180pts
Heavy 1: Whirlwind
cost 75 pts
Heavy 2: 6 man Devastator Squad
1 sergeant
2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
2 BAs w/ missile launchers
1 BA w/bolter
mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma guns
cost 303pts
Heavy 3: 6 man Devastator Squad
1 sergeant
2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
2 BAs w/ missile launchers
1 BA w/bolter
mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma guns
cost 303pts
total points 1999
~ Brother Edward
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Brother Titus, at your service
. (0 Replies). SanguiniusII[]. 3/22/2002 13:14 (3/22/2002 13:14)
I am here. lol. Idon't post much anymore but I check the boards
every once in awhile. I have
been playing Space marines for....hmm...4 years now I thnk, and
Blood Angels for 2 or 3 years. I
kinda have a tactical problem, Orks. I posted this a lot before
but I ust can't sem to stop the little
buggers. He has tons of infnty,2 dreads, and an unstoppable Warboss
and Nobb bodyguard.
Here is what I have, although not all of it is used.
HQ:
Chaplain- Jumpack, plasma pistol
Deathcompany- Jumpacks
Librarian- Jumpack, Power weapon, bolt pistol
Captain- Terminator armour, power weapon, storm bolter
Captain- Storm bolter, Power weapon.
Honour Guard- (actually just the boxed command squad, the 2nd
Captain came with it, y know?)
Yes I now that is to many HQ choices but I am going to give you
my complete army, as I said I
don't use it all in one battle...
Elites:
Furioso
Terminator squad
Troops:
22 tactical marines, 3 missile launchers, 3 heavy boltersa, and
a lascannon, plus 2 flamers.
These are split into around 3 squads, 2 mounted in rhinos, one
mounte in a razor back.
I also have a scout squad and 4 scout snipers.
Fast Attack:
Landspeeder- Multi Melta
Attack Bike- Multi-melta
Bike squad- 1 segeant, one regualr biker, and a biker with a melta
gun
Assualt Squad- Sergeant with plasma pistol and power fist 4 other
marines w/ bolt pistol and
CCW
Heavy Support:
Baal Predator
Dreadnought- Assault Cannon
Whirlwind
Could possibly take the heavy weapons from the tactical squads
and make a devastor squad, but
they aren't always the best choice ya know.
Thats about it I believe....Well thanks for looking at it.
Brother Titus
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Fear the black rage! . (1 Replies).
TheEnemy[]. 3/22/2002 13:20 (3/22/2002 13:39)
Greetings all!
I've been a Brother Blood Angel for approx. 4 years, starting
back in the day when Blood Angels
were just red ultramarines. =P
Tactical problems? Not really tactical per se, more like trying
to fit 1-2 rhinos in a 1000 pt army!
Anybody got any ideas? =P
My current list is on BABE's site, it has yet to be battle tested
however. I don't like the fact that it
has no rhinos, it has 2 foot slogging tacticals, but the rest
is damn mobile with jump packs.
Rhinos are so expensive for BA =P
Must find way, but what to cut? We'll see...
"Non omnis moriar"
-The Enemy
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the black rage! . (0 Replies). unclecrazy[cjoebob@yahoo.com]. 3/22/2002
13:39 (3/22/2002
13:39)
>> Greetings all!
>>
>> I've been a Brother Blood Angel for approx. 4 years, starting
back in the day when Blood
Angels were just red ultramarines. =P
>>
>> Tactical problems? Not really tactical per se, more like trying
to fit 1-2 rhinos in a 1000 pt
army!
U mean the start of 3rd????
>> Anybody got any ideas? =P
>>
>> My current list is on BABE's site, it has yet to be battle
tested however. I don't like the fact
that it has no rhinos, it has 2 foot slogging tacticals, but
the rest is damn mobile with jump packs.
>>
>> Rhinos are so expensive for BA =P
>>
>> Must find way, but what to cut? We'll see...
>>
>> "Non omnis moriar"
>> -The Enemy
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). rhombur[]. 3/22/2002 13:24
(3/22/2002 13:24)
Greetings Brother Edward:
In response to your questions, I offer the following:
1. I have played Blood Angels for approx. 4 years
2. I have particular difficulties dealing with Necrons. I will
probably have to re-tool my army to
include more power weapons and assault units to deal with them.
3. This is my current 1500 point army. Your comments would be
greatly appreciated:
HQ - Chaplain. bolter, crozius arcanum, rosarius, holy relic
Death Co. - mounted in rhino
Troops -
1. 6 man tactical squad with missle launcher
Mounted in razorback with twin linked bolters
2. 6 man tactical squad with missle launcher
Mounted in razorback with lascannon and twin plasma guns
3. 10 man tactical squad with missle launcher and flamer
Mounted in rhino
4. 5 man sniper squad. 4 sniper rifles. 1 heavy bolter
Assault
1. 9 man assault squad with jump packs. I plasma pistol. 1 veteran
sergeant with power fist.
Heavy
1. Predator Destructor with missle launcher, storm bolter pintle
mount, heavy bolter sponsons
and twin linked lascannon turret.
2. Predator Ba'al with heavy bolter sponsons and storm bolter
pintle mount.
Note: All rhinos and razorbacks have overcharged engines.
Usual tactic is the hammer and anvil. Predators, snipers and Razorbacks
and the fire base/anvil.
Rhinos, death co. and assault squad are the hammer.
Thank you for your comments.
Rhombur of Ix
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (2 Replies).
unclecrazy[cjoebob@yahoo.com]. 3/22/2002 13:35 (3/23/2002 0:30)
I do not play BA. But I played a big vs them two days ago. 3500
pts per side 2 detachments,
The Japanese guy I played against has been playing BA for about
10 tp 16 years. yep from
Rouge Trader dayz. He used Dante with houner garde about 10 men,
2 Labrains one with hg
about ten men., 2 dread one of them was for HtH, Land Raider,
2 Dev squads, four or five tac
squads, and a chaplian. and some other things.
I was playing World Eaters, with about 500 pts of Chaos Dark Angels(
the lonely thing they did
in the game was kill the Lander raider with a lucky shot most
of them never saw the battle) I also
had Kharn, and a Blood thirster, My main comander 180pts ( who
was eaten by the Blood
Thirster in the 2nd round) and a lesser comander(dark angels)
5 sqauds of Bezs, 2 dreads, and a
land raider as troop trans for my terms. and more
I thought the game was going to go bad me in the 2nd round, but
the terms had a great day, one
squad of bezs and daemon pack and J, kill his Death Company(including
the Chaplian) and two
other squads, but they died to Dante and his men. Kharn and the
Blood thrister kill most of the
rest of his HQs. the terms and my bikes killed most of his troops,
sorry it was a bad day for the BA
sorry about the spelling on sleep yet.
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
>> Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
>> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
>>
>> PS. Here's my entry :-)
>>
>> Brother Edward
>> 1) ~ 3 years
>> 2) no specific problems right now, always working to better
my mobile shooty game!
>> 3) one of my best all around lists is here for your viewing
pleasure :-)
>>
>> 2000pt all purpose BA army
>>
>> Chaplain w/ jumppack, term honors, plasma pistol
>> w/ DC honor guard
>> cost 230pts
>>
>> troop 1: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 2: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 3: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> troop 4: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 1: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 2: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 3: 6 man BA Assault Squad (Fast Attack 3)
>> veteran sergeant w/power weapon and jumppack
>> 5 BAs w/ bolt pistols & CCW and jumppacks
>> cost = 180pts
>>
>>
>> Heavy 1: Whirlwind
>> cost 75 pts
>>
>> Heavy 2: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>> Heavy 3: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>>
>> total points 1999
>>
>> ~ Brother Edward
>>
>>
>>
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. (0 Replies). UncleCrazy[]. 3/23/2002 0:04 (3/23/2002 0:04)
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BA . (0 Replies). UncleCrazy[cjoebob@yahoo.com]. 3/23/2002 0:30 (3/23/2002
0:30)
oh my friend's army is having a lot of problems vs My World Eaters.
I think my recoded 4 or 5
wins to 0 BA wins. It is the fearless thing that kills him. once
he is in HtH he can not get out to
charge again. and BeZs do not need the change to be real good
in HtH. when it is 5 vs 5 in HtH
15 dice vs 10. and that is just the dice before power weapons(Axes
of Khorne) and what not.
but I will say I do lose a lot of men on a BA charge but not
enough to kill the whole squad, and
that is where his problem is his Death Company and HQ squads
get stuck in HtH and let me get
charge with my HQ and more Bezs. and I always try to put my Daemons
on his Charactors. In
the last game his Chaplin went down to bloodlets and Juggernaughts.
But it was funny when
Dante failed two Ld checks against Kharn.
>> I do not play BA. But I played a big vs them two days ago.
3500 pts per side 2 detachments,
The Japanese guy I played against has been playing BA for about
10 tp 16 years. yep from
Rouge Trader dayz. He used Dante with houner garde about 10 men,
2 Labrains one with hg
about ten men., 2 dread one of them was for HtH, Land Raider,
2 Dev squads, four or five tac
squads, and a chaplian. and some other things.
>>
>> I was playing World Eaters, with about 500 pts of Chaos Dark
Angels( the lonely thing they
did in the game was kill the Lander raider with a lucky shot
most of them never saw the battle) I
also had Kharn, and a Blood thirster, My main comander 180pts
( who was eaten by the Blood
Thirster in the 2nd round) and a lesser comander(dark angels)
5 sqauds of Bezs, 2 dreads, and a
land raider as troop trans for my terms. and more
>>
>> I thought the game was going to go bad me in the 2nd round,
but the terms had a great day,
one squad of bezs and daemon pack and J, kill his Death Company(including
the Chaplian) and
two other squads, but they died to Dante and his men. Kharn and
the Blood thrister kill most of
the rest of his HQs. the terms and my bikes killed most of his
troops,
>>
>> sorry it was a bad day for the BA
>>
>> sorry about the spelling on sleep yet.
>>
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"Praise be to the Winged Angel"
. (1 Replies). InquisitorDalloren[]. 3/22/2002 14:17 (3/22/2002 14:33)
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
Since I started playing Space Crusade in 1991/1992.
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
Not really... (although if i did, Brother Edwards site is the
first place I would go!)
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
Erm, lots of possibilities. I've got a nice big 7000pt army from
which I can take just about any
BA unit available.
Oh, and I have a fetish about the Chaplain models! (Largely due
to the character heavy 2nd
edition), I have loads of Chaplains. Terminator Chaplains, Biker
Chaplains, Death Company
Chaplains, standard Marine Chaplains! Still in character with
the BA don't you think?
The only BA model I don't have (ironically!) is the Chaplain Lemartes
model. I hate it. It reminds
me of a distressed chicken.
Lord Inquisitor Jaq Dalloren,
=][= Ordo-Astartes.
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I understand
completely :-) . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 3/22/2002 14:33
(3/22/2002 14:33)
I can't blame you about the Chaplain Lemartes model! I got one
a while back, but ended up
swiping his arm (and a couple of other odd things) for use with
another Chaplain of mine! :-)
Does this arm look familiar? hee hee hee
http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewChaplainSharbiousPic1.html
Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
PS. hhhmm - now making a mini to represent Lemartes WELL might
indeed be a worthy
challenge! hhhmm - I might have to ponder this some... :-)
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). citrusmidget[]. 3/22/2002 14:29
(3/22/2002 14:29)
hello fellow blood angels
i started 40K maybe 2-3 years ago(as blood angels) i only really
played off and on until 6 months
ago. Now I am finishing up my first 1500 point tournament army
and am planning on going to my
first tournament either on March 30th(store run), or on April
20th(Rouge trader) This spring
break i have also painted my army too!
I am planning on having an army like this for the tournament:
HQ
Chaplain with jump pack and bolt pistol
Elites
Veteran Assault squad with 6. melta bombs and some plasma or
melta weapons
Troops
10 man tactical squad with vet. sarge andmelta gun in a rhino
wiht smoke launchers and extra
armor.
10 man tactical squad with vet. sarge and plasma gun in a rhino
with smoke launchers and extra
armor.
Scout squad with 4 snipers
Scout squad wiht cc weaps(if i have points to fit these in)
Fast Attack
Attack bike squad: 2 Abikes with multi meltas
Attack bike squad: 3 Abikes with heavy bolters
Heavy Support
Preadator Annihilator with lascannon side sponsons.
around 1500 points
that is the army i hope to field at the tournament. Sorry to not
include points, i am going to make
the final draft when i go to the store today and i cant really
change anything since the tournament
is so close.
For the Emperor and Sanguinius!!
-rob
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). arbite[]. 3/22/2002 14:31 (3/22/2002
14:31)
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
Greetings,
1) about 4 years
2) not really
3) I actually posted it for the first time, please check it out.
I also put in my tactics just for fun...
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I Play . (0 Replies). dmon[]. 3/22/2002
14:41 (3/22/2002 14:41)
1. I've been playing for about 2-3 years can't really remember
right now,
2.Eldar, I seem lose alot to eldar, I don't know why, but that's
allright
3.don't really have one right now
Glory to Sanguinius and the Emperor
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). skip[]. 3/22/2002 14:41 (3/22/2002
14:41)
Greetings. I've been playing BA's for 3 years now. I have no
real tactical problems at this
moment, but i also havent been playing much lately.
Here's the 1500 point list i plan on using at a tourny in 2 weeks,
and edward has my 1700 Grand
tournament list on his site.
HQ:
Chaplain-jump pack, plasma pistol, death co.
Librarian-power weapon, plasma pistol, termy honours (he rides
with a tactical squad in rhino)
Troops:
-9 man tac squad with flamer and veteran sarge with power weapon,
mounted in a smoke
launchered rhino
-10 man tac squad with a meltagun, veteran sarge with power weapon,
mounted in a smoke
launchered rhino
-7 man tac squad with lascannon, plasma gun, vet sarge
-6 man tac squad with missile launcher, plasma gun, vet sarge
Fast:
-speeder with multimelta
-7 man assault squad, 2 plasma pistols, and power weapon armed
vet sarge.
Heavy:
-Dred with twin lascannons, and i havent decided if i should
give him a missile launcher or a
powerfist with heavy flamer. any suggestions?)
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i've just started collecting but...
. (0 Replies). angelofanarchy[]. 3/22/2002 15:33 (3/22/2002 15:33)
yeah, ive just started but ive played 3 battles against
the forces of darkness (chaos,dark eldar)
my main tactical problem is that my tanks get taken out
too quickly [tips? e-mail me at adjfifteen@aol.com]
i only have:
1 tactical squad w/veteran sgt
3 scout bikes
and a hq squad.
i usually borrow some units from
my mate who has a 5,000+ army (novamarines)
but my army is growing as i speak.
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). Travailler[]. 3/22/2002 15:59
(3/22/2002 15:59)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
Hey, yeah i play Blood angels
1) a year
2) haven't lost yet, but looking to improve my speed
3) i dont have it on my computer and im rushed so i cant type
it out right now, ill post it another
time.
Travailler
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glory to the emporer!! . (0 Replies).
teeenagedirtbag[]. 3/22/2002 16:07 (3/22/2002 16:07)
1)6 months
2)I guess weak against heavy armor
3) here it is 1500 pt army
HQ
chaplain
-jet pack
-bolt pistal
liberan
-term honors
-power wepon
-boltbistal
-* goes with 9 man tac
TROOPS
10 man tac
vetsarg w/ ccw and bp
*rhino
9 man tac
vetsarg w/ ccw and bp
* rhino
10 man tac
vetsarg w/bolter
missle launcher
Fast
10 man assault
vet sarg w/ power wepon
-all have melta bombs
3 attack bike
-with multameltas
heavy
-baal preditor
-2 heavy bolters
-xtra armor
-smoke lauchers
transport
rhino
-xtra armor
-smoke lauchers
rhino
-xtra armor
-smoke lauchers
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). Legionmkv[]. 3/22/2002 16:11
(3/22/2002 16:11)
Aye my Brothers - you may count me among your illustrious ranks.
I have been a Blood Angels player since the 2nd edition rules
were still in use, no there are no
problems tactically which i cannot solve between bolter and chain-sword
: )
- LEGION
" FOR WE ARE MANY "
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (1 Replies). cutmelose[]. 3/22/2002 16:19
(3/22/2002 17:26)
battle brother edward why do you prefer to have 8 man strong
tac squads?
anyway, i have only been playing ba for 6 months
1.i dont realy have any tactical problems, but that is mainly
2.due to my army not being finished
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squad sizes...
. (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 3/22/2002 17:26 (3/22/2002 17:26)
>> battle brother edward why do you prefer to have 8 man strong
tac squads?
>>
>> anyway, i have only been playing ba for 6 months
>> 1.i dont realy have any tactical problems, but that is mainly
2.due to my army not being
finished
++++++ hello there!
I love having full squads if I can get them! But sometimes I find
something I want that I can only
afford if I drop a couple of regular marines from several of
my squads - the practice doesn't
weaken those squads terribly, and it often lets me buy an entirely
new unit that can help the whole
army moreso than the extra tac marines.
3 ten man squads with 2 heavy weapons each
or two 7 man squads and two eight man squads is just as many people
but now I have four units
(instead of three) and i have eight heavy weapons (instead of
the six you get with three tac
squads). Now some codex armies push this theory to the max and
take minimal tac squads for
the sole purpose of maxing out their heavy weapons - but this
too is a mistake for with so few
people it leaves the unit very vulnerable to becoming useless
after taking just a couple of
casualties. For this reason (and because we Blood Angels tend
to lose people to the DC) seven
in the minimal number that I'll field in a squad, I feel better
with eight.
The exception for me is that I've found it useful to take a devastator
squad in a razorback (only
carries 6 marines) and that's fine for me - the mobility of that
vehicle and the shootiness of the unit
allow it to be extremely potent for the turn or two that it needs
to be useful (with my tactics that's
all we need it to do - any further achievement is a bonus). :-)
that's it for me, I hop this helped some!
Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
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a blast from the past, pictures
of my old blood angels . (0 Replies). aradiel69[]. 3/22/2002 17:44 (3/22/2002
17:44)
hiya, I have uploaded pictures of my blood angels army to my
website.
this was my first army so i wasn't very good at painting or converting,
they are nothing compeared
to my current nurgle army.
I played my blood angels for about a year before switching to
nurgle.
http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~rich-mac/40k/blood/
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). warrenn[]. 3/22/2002 17:53
(3/22/2002 17:53)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
About 7 or 8 years now.
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
Eldar and those b****y Leman Russ Tanks (when there's more than
one).
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
Chaplain w DC in Rhino,with Honour Guard in Rhino, 2 tactical
squads in Rhinos, Devestator
Squad in Rhino, Bike Squad, Terminator Assault Squad in Land
Raider and Vindicator.
Chaplain Ruphio, 3rd Battle Company
in memory of Brother-Captain Tycho
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Lord Commander Zeneric, Loyal and
Ready . (0 Replies). BloodAngelsLordCommanderZeneric[].
3/22/2002 18:09 (3/22/2002 18:09)
Greetings Brothers.
1) 4th year
2) Not any I can see
3) All I can say is my Army is 8000pts+
The Signifer Orbis stands posed on the Destruction of the Traitor
Legions.
Be Bloody, Bold and Resolute!
Lord Commander Zeneric
Blood Angels Signifer Orbis
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well im here for the long haule!!!
. (1 Replies). baronsmeg[]. 3/22/2002 18:31 (3/22/2002 18:37)
been playing blood angles for 11 years and still counting!!!
although i have been side tracked with eldar and tau mostly, and
delved a little in to nids, orks,
and chaos!!!
but i still love my Angels!!!
i have had a nice even amount of wins and loses, but the one army
i have yet to get the hang of
(no matter what army im using!!!) so any help here would be awesome!!!
asfar as an army list, to be honest it changes every game!!
but my most recent one (against eldar, and was quite successful!)
is:
HQ: chaplain - 80
* plasma pistol
wg:
jump pack - 20
terminator honours - 15
artificer armour - 20
TOTAL = 250 POINTS
HQ: librarian - 60
* power weapon - 15 (master crafted - 15)
* plasma pistol - 15
wg:
jump pack - 20
iron halo - 25
terminator honours - 15
artificer armour - 20
TOTAL = 185 POINTS
*: honour guard x5 - 90
* 2x plasma pistols - 10
* 4x terminator honours - 40
* 5x power weapons - 50
* 5x jump packs - 50
+ vetran seargent - 12
TOTAL = 252 POINTS
TROOP: tactical squad x9 - 135
+ vetranseargent - 15
* plasma gun - 6
TOTAL = 156 POINTS
TROOP: tactical squad x9 - 135
+ vetran seargent - 15
* missile launcher - 10
TOTAL = 160 POINTS
ELITE: furioso dreadnaught - 90
* heavy flammer - 10
TOTAL = 105 POINTS
ELITE: furioso dreadnaught - 90
* heavy flammer - 10
TOTAL = 105 POINTS
ELITE: furioso dreadnaught - 90
* heavy flammer - 10
TOTAL = 105 POINTS
FAST: land speeder tornado - 75
* multi melta - 15
TOTAL = 90 POINTS
FAST: land speeder tornado - 75
*multi melta - 15
TOTAL = 90 POINTS
HEAVY: vindicator - 120
TOTAL = 120 POINTS
HEAVY: baal class predator - 110
* heavy bolter side sponsons - 10
* pintle mounted storm bolter - 10
TOTAL = 130 POINTS
HEAVY: land raider crusader - 255
(librarian rode in this!)
TOTAL = 255 POINTS
ARMY TOTAL = 2003 POINTS
now this is not what my army normally looks like, in most cases
i can field 2 of every thing in the
army list except for wirl winds, so my army tends to change a
lot with each battle so i realy dont
have a reacuring theme for my BA's
baronsmeg and his mini lop!
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OOPS!!!
i forgot to actually say what army i have troble against --- it NIDS !!!
(NT) . (0 Replies).
baronsmeg[]. 3/22/2002 18:37 (3/22/2002 18:37)
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). Tycosghost[]. 3/22/2002 18:37
(3/22/2002 18:37)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
>> Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
>> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
>>
>> PS. Here's my entry :-)
>>
>> Brother Edward
>> 1) ~ 3 years
>> 2) no specific problems right now, always working to better
my mobile shooty game!
>> 3) one of my best all around lists is here for your viewing
pleasure :-)
>>
>> 2000pt all purpose BA army
>>
>> Chaplain w/ jumppack, term honors, plasma pistol
>> w/ DC honor guard
>> cost 230pts
>>
>> troop 1: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 2: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 3: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> troop 4: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 1: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 2: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 3: 6 man BA Assault Squad (Fast Attack 3)
>> veteran sergeant w/power weapon and jumppack
>> 5 BAs w/ bolt pistols & CCW and jumppacks
>> cost = 180pts
>>
>>
>> Heavy 1: Whirlwind
>> cost 75 pts
>>
>> Heavy 2: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>> Heavy 3: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>>
>> total points 1999
>>
>> ~ Brother Edward
>>
>>
>>
Greetings from the warp. I still lead my company even after my
untimely demise at armageddon. I
have been play since the codex came out in second ed. 40k. The
only problem I have is my dice.
They roll 1s for black rage on units I do not want to move and
anything else on the units I want to
move. My army list is varied, but mainly it consists of-
HQ- Sanguinary High Priest w/Honor Guard tooled to the max
with Sanguinary Priest(large point unit but effective)
Troop- 10 man tac squad w/flamer mounted in Rhino
10 man tac squad w/meltagun mounted in Rhino
Scout squad w/2 sniperrifles, Heavy Bolter, 2 bolters
Scout squad w/4 shotguns
Elite- Furiso dread
Heavy Spt- Landraider
Whirlwind
And various other units to fill in the point demand.
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
fwaybo[justinyoung50@hotmail.com]. 3/22/2002 19:26 (3/22/2002
19:26)
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
dunno....3 years or so
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
eldar!dang wraitlords
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>>
Dont know total points, sorry yall
HQ
Lord
Librarian
Elite
Dreadnought(multi-melta), cant remember if this is elite or heavy,
so ill put it here(i havent played
for awhile)
Troops
3x 10 man tactical squads(flamers and missle launchers of ocurse)
1x 5 man Blood Angels Scout squad
1x 5 man scout squad-2 snipers,2shotguns and 1 hvy. bolter
Fast attack
3 land speeders, all with hvy. bolters:)
heavy support
1x 5 man dev. squad-1 plasma,1 las cannon,1 msl. launcher,1 hvy
bolter
thats bout it.
P.S
any blood angel players gots MSN?id love to chat, bout warhammer
or whatever, mines
justinyoung50@hotmail.com
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (1 Replies).
gbrlba[gbrlgltz@hotmail.com]. 3/22/2002 21:13 (3/22/2002 21:29)
death company command squad
chaplain
bolt pistol, crozius arcanum, power armour, jump pack, rosarius
death company
terminator squad
terminator sergeant
power sword
3 terminators
storm bolters, power fist
terminator
heavy flamer, power fist
tactical squad
tactical marine veteran sergeant
bolt pistol, power fist, terminator honours
9 tactical marines
bolter
rhino
tactical squad
tactical marine verteran sergeant
bolt pistol, power weapon, terminator honours
8 tactical marines
bolter
tactical marine
meltagun
rhino
tactical squad
tactical marine sergeant
bolt pistol & close combat weapon
8 tactical marines
bolter
tactical marine
flamer
rhino
land raider
pintle-mounted storm bolter
There are still 88 points remaining for this army. I really have
no clue on how to spend the extra
points.
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RE: RE:
BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? . (0 Replies). Viaraptor[].
3/22/2002
21:29 (3/22/2002 21:29)
Blood Angel Player from Oz right here.
(Though been playing more with my Eldar than BA recently).
Army strength : 2250 pts.
Been playing BA for five, close to six years now.
R@ptor.au
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (1 Replies).
kinkosslw[kinkosslw@hotmail.com]. 3/22/2002 21:44 (3/22/2002
22:17)
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
2 months.
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
My army was too slow, I've been buying Rhinos and Razorbacks.
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
Reworking it now. Going with a chaplain with Jump Pack, a SHP
with HG in a Rhino, 4 tac
squads with Rhinos or Razorbacks, 3 vet assault squads (2 melta-guns
each) and 2 Dev Squads
(1 w/ 4 ML, 1 w 2 LC, 2 PC. I'm not putting any heavy weapons
with the tac squads, since I
figure they'll be moving every round. the tac squads will have
a mix of assault weapons (plasma,
melta or flamer)
I got a question about the Black Rage. If a Rhino or Razorbacks
moves forward because of the
rage, how far can it move during movement and still fire?
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an answer
to your question...... . (0 Replies). baronsmeg[]. 3/22/2002 22:17 (3/22/2002
22:17)
the normal rules still apply
still = all weapons
6" = one weapon
(unless it is fast, 6" = all 12" = one weapon)
so if you blake rage and move you can only shoot one weapon, if
you black rage and move over
6" you can't shoot!
not so bad for rhino's, but can suck for razor backs!!
baronsmeg and his mini lop!
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (1 Replies).
BLOODANGELOFBAAL[Blood_Angel_Brethren@hotmail.com]. 3/22/2002
22:24 (3/23/2002 9:09)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel
players are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
>> Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
>> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
=================================================================
Hello Brother Blood Angels!
Answers to your Question Brother Edward:
1) I accually just started colecting Blood Angels last week !
2) Not Really (That might come from not having much of an army
yet!)
3) I only have the SM Battle Force, Blood Angels Champlain, and
the ever important BA
Codex!
And Before I go... I'd like to thank Blood Angel Brother Edward
for creating a great site! If it
wasn't for your site Brother, I wouldn't have start a BA army!
~BloodAngelOfBaal~
"Death To All Who Oppose Sanguinious!"-Blood Angel Tactical Marine
Andros
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BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who is here these days? . (0 Replies).
BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 3/23/2002 9:09 (3/23/2002 9:09)
>> And Before I go... I'd like to thank Blood Angel Brother Edward
for creating a great site! If it
wasn't for your site Brother, I wouldn't have start a BA army!
>>
>> ~BloodAngelOfBaal~
++++++ Good heavens! I had no idea! :-) Well I'm honored that
my site inspired such a devoted
Blood Angel player! May fortune follow you all your days my battle
brother! If you need any
help, just hollar! :-)
Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). spendaddy[]. 3/23/2002 0:59
(3/23/2002 0:59)
1) collecting for 2yrs... usually run DE but us BA on occasion
2) no major probs
3) 2000
basically
decked out chaplain
2-4 tac squads
6 attack bikes
3 landspeeders
moriar
2 furiosos
1 baal
2 pred annihalators
full scout squad (space marines w/ snipe rifles)
Brother Spencer
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
>> Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
>> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
>>
>> PS. Here's my entry :-)
>>
>> Brother Edward
>> 1) ~ 3 years
>> 2) no specific problems right now, always working to better
my mobile shooty game!
>> 3) one of my best all around lists is here for your viewing
pleasure :-)
>>
>> 2000pt all purpose BA army
>>
>> Chaplain w/ jumppack, term honors, plasma pistol
>> w/ DC honor guard
>> cost 230pts
>>
>> troop 1: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 2: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 3: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> troop 4: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 1: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 2: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 3: 6 man BA Assault Squad (Fast Attack 3)
>> veteran sergeant w/power weapon and jumppack
>> 5 BAs w/ bolt pistols & CCW and jumppacks
>> cost = 180pts
>>
>>
>> Heavy 1: Whirlwind
>> cost 75 pts
>>
>> Heavy 2: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>> Heavy 3: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>>
>> total points 1999
>>
>> ~ Brother Edward
>>
>>
>>
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The Raging Angels . (0 Replies).
BattleBrotherTor[]. 3/23/2002 2:08 (3/23/2002 2:08)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing who's out there!
>>
>> Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
>> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis
>>
>> PS. Here's my entry :-)
>>
>> Brother Edward
>> 1) ~ 3 years
>> 2) no specific problems right now, always working to better
my mobile shooty game!
>> 3) one of my best all around lists is here for your viewing
pleasure :-)
>>
>> 2000pt all purpose BA army
>>
>> Chaplain w/ jumppack, term honors, plasma pistol
>> w/ DC honor guard
>> cost 230pts
>>
>> troop 1: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 2: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 veteran sergeant w/ power weapon and plasma pistol
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ meltagun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> mounted in rhino w/ smoke launchers
>> cost 253pts
>>
>> troop 3: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> troop 4: 8 man tac squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 1 BA w/missile launcher
>> 1 BA w/ plasma gun
>> 5 BAs w/ bolters
>> cost 136pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 1: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 2: Landepeeder w/ multimelta
>> cost 65pts
>>
>> Fast Attack 3: 6 man BA Assault Squad (Fast Attack 3)
>> veteran sergeant w/power weapon and jumppack
>> 5 BAs w/ bolt pistols & CCW and jumppacks
>> cost = 180pts
>>
>>
>> Heavy 1: Whirlwind
>> cost 75 pts
>>
>> Heavy 2: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>> Heavy 3: 6 man Devastator Squad
>> 1 sergeant
>> 2 BAs w/ plasma cannons
>> 2 BAs w/ missile launchers
>> 1 BA w/bolter
>> mounted in Razorback w/ lascannon & twin linked plasma
guns
>> cost 303pts
>>
>>
>> total points 1999
>>
>> ~ Brother Edward
>>
>>
>>
ive been playing marines for a year, BA for a week.
no real problems...just have to pick up some more BA style models(more
assult marines, more
scouts with ccw's and a furioso)
no proven lists as of yet but i do love having a squad of 10veteran
assult marines with termie
honors and all ccw's(tons of attacks on the charge!! BLOOD!!)
i will be building my BA army
around this unit and my hefty number of ccw's scouts (actual
number is undecided but i think at
least 2 squads of 10)
-Commander Tor, Lord of the Raging Angels
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not so much a player as a... .
(1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherXeNoJaY[]. 3/23/2002 4:35 (3/25/2002 13:23)
well wisher... in that i don't wish any specific harm
all i got is a maxed out honour guard and sanguinius... does that
count?
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How long
have you been B.A.B.X ? (NT) (NT) . (0 Replies). WarlordGarslob[]. 3/25/2002
13:23 (3/25/2002
13:23)
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
illnino[illnino2002@fsmail.net]. 3/23/2002 5:52 (3/23/2002 5:52)
I only have 20 marines + land speeder but I am getting a death
company + Rhino on wednesday
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH
Rock on Blood Brothers
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). AngeloftheBlood[]. 3/23/2002
10:05 (3/23/2002 10:05)
This list is only 1700, from the last Rouge Trader I went to.
I've been playing for 1 year. A
tactical problem I experienced Well, here goes…
HQ - Chaplain - 250 w/ jump pack
plasma pistol
Termy honours
Artificer armor
Troops - Tactical Squad #1 - 259
Vet. w/ bolt pistol and power weapon
7 Space Marines w/ bolters
1 w/ Missle Launcher
1 w/ Flamer
w/ Rhino w/ smk launchers and searchlight
Tactical Squad #2 - 259
Vet. w/ bolt pistol and power weapon
7 Space Marines w/ bolters
1 w/ Missle Launcher
1 w/ Flamer
w/ Rhino w/ smk launchers and searchlight
BA Scout Squad - 78
Vet. w/ bolt pistol and CCW
4 Scouts w/ bolt pistols and CCWs
BA Scout Squad - 78
Vet. w/ bolt pistol and CCW
4 Scouts w/ bolt pistols and CCWs
Fast - Assault Squad #1 - 170
Attack Vet. w/ bolt pistol,power weapon,jump pack, meltabombs
4 w/ bolt pistols,CCWs,meltabombs
2 w/ plasma pistols,CCWs,meltabombs
Assault Squad #2 - 170
Vet. w/ bolt pistol,power weapon,jump pack, meltabombs
4 w/ bolt pistols,CCWs,meltabombs
2 w/ plasma pistols,CCWs,meltabombs
Heavy - Dreadnought - 135
Support Twin-linked Lascannon
Missle Launcher
Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Dreadnought - 135
Twin-linked Lascannon
Missle Launcher
Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
-1700 points
Chaplain Askell
Drink of the Blood!
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any more out there? . (1 Replies).
BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 3/23/2002 20:16 (3/23/2002 22:23)
let's hear from you!
~ Brother Edward
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Yup . (0
Replies). fdsajkl[]. 3/23/2002 22:23 (3/23/2002 22:23)
Yep I have just decided to dust off my BA from 2nd ed and use
them again
I have played 40k for two years
I stopped as everyone else decided to do SM but now that they
have gone and started something
else I thought may as well get my marines back in shape
I don't have an army list yet
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
BloodAngelsBrotherKalibroxin[]. 3/24/2002 2:17 (3/24/2002 2:17)
I am here Brother Edward. Your faithful ally Kalibroxin still
lives on.
Believe it or not Ed, I've only been playing for 3 months.
I have NO tactical problems as of yet.
List (2000 points)
Sanguinary High Priest
Jump Pack
Pair of Lightning Claws
Iron Halo
Frag Grenades
Terminator Honours
Chaplain
Jump Pack
Master-Crafted Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades
Meltabombs
Terminator Honours
Death Company
Jump Packs
Tactical Squad of 10 (x2)
Veteran Sergeant
Power Weapon
Bolter
1 Meltagun
1 Missile Launcher
all w/ Frag grenades
Rhino
Extra Armour
Smoke Launchers
Veteran Squad of 10
Veteran Sergeant
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol
Meltabombs
1 w/ meltagun
All w/ Frag Grenades
Assault Squad of 10 (x2)
Veteran Sergeant
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol
Meltabombs (Vet. Sergeant only)
All w/ Jump packs
Dreadnought
Twin-linked Autocannon
Close-Combat Weapon
Storm Bolter
Extra Armour
I think this is about 2000 points. I have alist made out, but
i'm not sure where it is exactly.
Well, happy gaming and long-live Sanguinius
Blood Angels Brother Kalibroxin
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I’m here but my allegiance has
torn at the seams! . (0 Replies). zeusss[]. 3/24/2002 7:17 (3/24/2002 7:17)
Well I started my Blood Angels force about 3 months ago. I love
my little red devils, but I have
found that my “style” is more in tune with the Deathwing, but
that’s another story.
No probs with the Blood Angels that can’t be fixed with more experience.
:) So here’s my
1500pt list (not quite ready yet - but this is my blueprint…)
Erebus. Blood Angels 2nd Assault Company
HQ
--------------------
Chaplain
Jump Pack, Terminator Honours, Frag Grenades, Melta Bombs, Plasma
Pistol
Death Company
236
TROOPS
-------------------
10 Man Tac Squad (assault role)
- Vet Sergeant with Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol
- Marine with Flamer
- 8 Marines with Bolters
- All with Frag Grenades
Mounted in Rhino:
- Dozer Blade, Extra Armour and Smoke
299
6 Man Tac Squad (fire support role)
- Sergeant with Close Combat Weapon and Bolt Pistol
- Marine with Missile Launcher
- 4 Marines with Bolters
Mounted in Razorback:
- Twin Linked Lascannon’s
- Dozer Blade, Extra Armour and Smoke
218
6 Man Tac Squad (fire support role)
- Sergeant with Close Combat Weapon and Bolt Pistol
- Marine with Missile Launcher
- 4 Marines with Bolters
Mounted in Razorback:
- Twin Linked Lascannon’s
- Dozer Blade, Extra Armour and Smoke
218
ELITES
-------------------
9 Man Veteran Assault Squad
- Vet Sergeant with Melta Bombs, Power Weapon and Plasma Pistol
- Marine with Flamer
- Marine with Meltagun
- 6 Marines with Close Combat Weapons and Bolt Pistols
All Frag Grenades and Jump Packs
315
FAST ATTACK
-------------------
Landspeeder with MultiMelta
65
Landspeeder with MultiMelta
65
HEAVY SUPPORT
-------------------
Whirlwind with extra armour and smoke launchers
83
TOTAL = 1499
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherSoren[].
3/24/2002 8:01 (3/24/2002 8:01)
1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
since 3rd ed started, but been intrested for years before that.
2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
beating a seer council, they are very tough to kill
3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
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1500 Pts - Angels Encarmine Army
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1 Chaplain (HQ) @ 207 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Crozius Arcanum; Rosarius
Jump Pack [20]
Frag Grenades [1]
Melta Bombs [5]
1 Death Company @ [0] Pts
Bolter / Bolt Pstl. & CCW; Frag Grenades
---
9 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 229 Pts
Bolter (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1); Flamer (x1)
1 Sergeant @ [15] Pts
Bolt Pistol & CCWep.
1 Rhino APC @ [68] Pts
Supercharged Engine; Storm Bolter
Smoke Launchers [3]
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9 Tactical Squad (Troops) @ 229 Pts
Bolter (x7); Heavy Bolter (x1); Flamer (x1)
1 Sergeant @ [15] Pts
Bolt Pistol & CCWep.
1 Rhino APC @ [68] Pts
Supercharged Engine; Storm Bolter
Smoke Launchers [3]
---
7 Assault Squad (Fast Attack) @ 235 Pts
Bolt Pistol & CCWep. (x6); Plasma P. & CC Wep. (x1);
Frag Grenades; Jump
Packs
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Weapon (x1)
---
7 Assault Squad (Fast Attack) @ 235 Pts
Bolt Pistol & CCWep. (x6); Plasma P. & CC Wep. (x1);
Frag Grenades; Jump
Packs
1 Veteran Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Jump Packs; Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Weapon (x1)
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2 Land Speeder Squadron (Fast Attack) @ 115 Pts
Heavy Bolter (x1); Multi-Melta (x1)
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1 Dreadnought (Heavy Support) @ 125 Pts
Front Armour: 12; Side Armour: 12; Rear Armour: 10; Dread. CC
Weapon;
Storm Bolter; Twin Lascannon
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1 Dreadnought (Heavy Support) @ 125 Pts
Front Armour: 12; Side Armour: 12; Rear Armour: 10; Dread. CC
Weapon;
Storm Bolter; Twin Lascannon
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Models in Army: 44
Total Army Cost: 1500
---
your loyal blood angel brother.
aka. Sanguinius40k
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Checking in.... . (0 Replies).
captainbrothertycho[captainbrothertycho@btinternet.com]. 3/24/2002
15:42 (3/24/2002 15:42)
Answer
1. Started playing again after a 10 year gap, about 18 months
to date. All the army is Mk6
variation with the bumpy shoulder pad & "womble" style helmet.
2. Too many models to pick from! changed my opinions several
times every enemy is different
but I win more than I lose.
Most people I play against and any tounament games are usually
1000pt - 1500pt games.
3. Won't post a list - too many variations!
Large Death company with jump packs*, smaller DC with Rhino, several
Chaplains with various
weapons. My current favourite has a thunderhammer. 5 tactical
squads, 4 razorbacks (4X
twinlinked plasma guns, las cannons. 2X heavy bolters 2x TW las
cannons, 2X multi-meltas) 2
rhinos, 2X 10 assault marines, 1 unit with jump packs 1 without.
10 man devestator squad, bike
squadron of 5 (incl 2X melta guns) attack bike with multi melta.
land speeder, land speeder
typhoon. land raider crusader. Furioso (painted as if Moriar
the chosen) 2X drednoughts.
Vindicator. terminator squad (incl assault cannon & h/flamer)
a 7 man assault terminator squad
(LC's) 2 scout squads (1 squad with all sniper rifles) A selection
of other heros and veteran sgts
with different weapons & wargear.
Think thats about it....
* I also have a Death Company army - last count at least 2000pts
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For Sanguinius . (1 Replies). gruntboy[].
3/25/2002 9:21 (3/25/2002 10:47)
Brother Gruntboy reporting for duty in the Emperor's service.
Played original 40K 10 years ago. Reborn as a Blood Angel collector
about 6 months ago.
Brother Edward, I visited your site and really liked it. Cool.
My current army is in development, mostly characters (more for
painting purposes at the moment,
hence no tactical problems). There's something about the BA's
that just rocks! It has me back on
40K with a vengeance.
HQ
Sanguinary High Priest
SHP with JP
Chaplain
Chaplain with JP.
Commander
Commander with JP.
10 Death Company + Rhino
5 Death Company + JP
Elite
10 Veteran Assault marines
Troops
10 Marines
Heavy
1 Dreadnought
Fast Attack
1 Tornado Speeder
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Sanguinius . (0 Replies). gruntboy[]. 3/25/2002 10:47 (3/25/2002 10:47)
Forgot, I also have a librarian.
Coming soon:
Librarian with JP
More JP death company
Furioso Dreadnought
Landraider
Whirlwind
New Rhinos
Speeders
Scouts.
Indeed, Brother Edwards site was an inspiration to me too. The
Death Company and JP Honour
Guard models swayed me originally.
I have plans for hordes of airborne blood angels to drop from
the sky. As you can see, all of my
HQ's are dual-purpose footsloggers or jump packs.
Heh heh, *no-one* expects the jump pack librarian. ;)
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Can any of you lot help with my
"blood angels fluff query" thread? (NT) . (0 Replies).
MantisWarrior[]. 3/25/2002 10:59 (3/25/2002 10:59)
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Sorry, "Blood Angels fluff QUESTION"
thread (NT) . (0 Replies). MantisWarrior[]. 3/25/2002 11:00
(3/25/2002 11:00)
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
jdelrio[jmdelrio1@hotmail.com]. 3/25/2002 11:47 (3/25/2002 11:47)
I've been playing Blood Angles for 4 years now. I haven't played
any games larger than 1200 pts.
My army list evolves around:
Chaplain with jump pack, deathmask, plasmapistol.
Death Company with Jump Packs
Librarian, jump pack, plasma pistol, force weapon.
1 Land Raider Promeithius.
3 Furioso Dreadnoughts
3 10 man tac squads with an open choice between any heavy and
assault weapons.
1 10 man scout squad, 9 snipers 1 heavy bolter.
3 Dreadnoughts, twin linked lascannons and Missle Launchers. Working
on Plasma gun Arms.
Adding some Assault Terminators and an honor guard to my list
of choices. Someday a
Whirlwind, a complement of landspeeders and another assault squad.
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No Subject . (0 Replies). angel[].
3/25/2002 13:10 (3/25/2002 13:10)
1/ i have playd ba i 5 years now
2/ i have som problem agenst the orcs
3/ i have
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies). JudgeK[]. 3/25/2002 15:53
(3/25/2002 15:53)
>> Greetings my battle brothers!
>>
>> As seasons change so to do our numbers - so the question is,
how many Blood Angel players
are on this message board these days?
>>
>> As you sign in we have three questions for you my brothers:
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
>>
Haven't been around for a while, but back for a time now.
1) Played BA for nearly 11 years (has it really been that long!)
2) I tend to have a problem with Eldar (unfortunate really as
they are my regular opponents!)
3) Haven't got one handy at the mo, but off the top of my head
it usually looks like this:-
2 10 man TAC squads in Rhinos
Scout squad
Captain
Assault squad
Bike squadron
2 Lans Speeders
Chaplain
...that's about all i can remember!
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
PhaseChange[nathan_zimmerman@hotmail.com]. 3/26/2002 0:40 (3/26/2002
0:40)
Ho there! I am new to these boards, and relatively new to WH
40k. Only played 8 or so battles
with my Angels, but in the next few weeks and especially this
summer (I am a college student,
after all) I hope to be playing tons.
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
6 months I'd say.
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
Haven't played enough to really have chronic problems, but Eldar
tanks are a bitch. But I have
already reworked my army list, so have to test it out.
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
This is what I just came up with, much of the composition is
from advice of Brother Edward to
others...
All-around tourney army
-HQ-
Sanguinary High Priest, 306 points
Iron Halo
Power Weapon
Jump Pack
Frag Grenades
Honor Guard,
3x Power Weapon
2x Chainsword
Chaplain, 201
Jump Pack
Bolt Pistol
Death Company
Jump Packs
-Troops-
Tac Squad 1, 254
Vet Sergent w/ Power Weapon
6x Bolters
1x Missile Launcher
1x Flamer
Rhino
Smokes
Extra Armor
Tac Squad 2, 258
Vet Sergent w/ Power Weapon
6x Bolters
1x Missile Launcher
1x Meltagun
Rhino
Smokes
Extra Armor
-Elite-
Veteran Assault Squad 216
7x Bolt Pistol and CCW
-Fast Attack-
Landspeeder 1 65
Multi-Melta
Landspeeder 2 65
Multi-Melta
-Heavy Support-
Dreadnought 135
TL Lascannons
Misile Launcher
Total 1500
Have yet to try this army out, and it is pretty far from my old
arangement. I also have lists tailored
to specific army types (Eldar, swarms, power armor), but this
is my most versitile,
whatever-comes-up army. The strategy is basically what Brother
Edward has laid out, everything
moves foward under cover (except the dread) and then assaults
at once. I have never played with
a dread before (don't even own the model, just going to borrow
one for now), but my
devostators weren't getting the job done, so they are being replaced
by the speeders and dread.
The SHP is in there so I can get some power weapons concentrated
on where ever their best
troops are, and will stick with one of the larger AS's (DC and
vet squad). Not sure if I should
take him out, he is a lot of points, but I like getting those
power weapons all in one place, and
with the re-rolling. And if I can keep them behind the DC, they
ought to survive pretty well.
To deal with tanks, I have the dread, the speeders (which I think
are GREAT at tank busting,
8+2d6 in the rear armor, and most single tanks are more than
the 130 points they are together.
plus they go nicely with a highly mobile army), one melta in
a tac squad, two meltas in the vet
squad, and the two misile launchers in the tacs. Will this get
the job done in 1500 point battles?
Thanks for reading, hopefully you can give me some advice or opinions
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Well... i am! . (0 Replies). BrotherCaptainMarius[Mephiston79@hotmail.com].
3/26/2002 5:01 (3/26/2002
5:01)
You don't have to read everything if you don't want to!
1: I have been playing for ~7 years.
I started in the winter of 1995 when i was 16 years old, and
at this time it was the sec.ed.. on the
market. (If you want to read a boring history on how i began
with Blood Angel's! Go further
down)
2: Well now in the 3rd ed. you have the problem shooting, so it
is mostly that. Even after 7 years i
havent got a "real" army as you will se a bit later.
Oohhh and my biggest problem is ME. ???????? you might think.
I just love the close combat "game"! When i build my army i take
alot of assault often the
strongest(veteran assaults), i was thrilled when i found the
chapter appendix in the rulebook that
BA's could take assault as troops, and i was disapointed when
the codex did'nt have that. And
besides i don't have the models for assault!!! When i began playing
there was only assaults in
metal(same with terms) so it was'nt cheap!
3: I don't have a army list on me at the moment but i can list
what i have.
HQ:
Dante
Mephiston(he is my personal favorit i just love him)
Tycho
Corbulo
The Blood Angel chaplain with 9 Death company(this is acually
the first box i ever bought)
The old Tycho model that have the same typ of mask and thingy
over his head that Dante have
Chaplain lemartes
A terminator captain
A terminator librarian
The honourguard box
The vindicare assasin(the first one)
And last but not lest:
BrotherCaptain Marius, Commander of the first company and the
second in command after
Dante.
I have the stats somewhere but i cant find them at the moment!
But he have got a Term armour
and a pair of lightning claws, and some other godies.
Elit:
8 teminaters, 1 seargant, 1 assaultcannon(more to come),
1 cyclone miss..., 5.. i mean 4 lightning claw terms(used a pair
of claws to build my Marius, i just
cut of the hands from the new term captain and cut of the arms
from the claws and combind
them, it's a lovly model, when i see the model the only thing
i can think of is "Come get some")
9 veteran assault 1 veteran seargant(can be used as a normel assault)
Troops:
~40 of the old plastic marines(4 seargants and 4 missile launchers
included, and most of the 40
models not painted, hey try painting 40 models without being
bord when you have cooler models
like term, dread and characters!)
13 marines, 1 seargant, 1 missile launcher(the new plastic models)
8 scouts with sniper/bolt/shootgun, 1 seargant, 1 heavy bolter.
4 cc scouts, 1 seargant.
Fast attack:
3 measly bikes???
At this spot there should be ~30 assault(sigh Money you know)
Heavy support:
A "Baal" predator
A original predator( the old one, destructor)
A land raider( the new one)
The new devestator squad box
That is probably it and the points cost of all of this is some
where around/betwean e.t.c.
4500-5000 points!!
The boring history!
when i first came in to the store and had been there for some
time, i had chosen to become a sm
player, and my chois of chapter was Legion of the damned, ????
you might think(becose L.o.t.D.
was no chapter in that time, it was only a wery mighty squad
that you only could have one squad
of in your army), well i was new on the field of 40K and i thought
they looked cool in their black
armour with flames.
So the next day i had money with me and thinking that it was
L.o.t.D. i bought a box with the text
Death company, during the day i found out that it was a special
unit of the Blood Angel's and
after reading alot about them i got stuck, and hear i am a Blood
Angel's fanatic that always have
to write the whole name Blood Angel's instead of writing........BA!
Im realy sorry i became so long!!!!.
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RE: BLOOD ANGEL ROLL CALL: Who
is here these days? . (0 Replies).
HarryKeogh[MRDPJOHARA@hotmail.com]. 3/26/2002 20:18 (3/26/2002
20:18)
>>
>> 1) how long have you been playing Blood Angels?
I started playing in the mid-eighties had a few years
break and returned primarily for painting 2 years ago.
>> 2) any big tactical problems facing you now?
My main problem is IG armoured companys.
>> 3) one of your current lists (optional - but encouraged!)
I dont have Army lists as of yet.When having a battle I take
along my whole army and choose
what units I am going to use,as all my units are worked out.This
makes it easier than taking a set
amount at any one time and gives me a slight advantage against
my opponents.
Danny.
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(AKA) Brother Librarian Cassius
. (0 Replies). Mandragore[drunk_pastor@hotmail.com]. 3/26/2002
21:44 (3/26/2002 21:44)
1) 2 years
2) Non realy (Sometimes Dark Eldar)
3)My whole army is actualy 3643 points, but here is my favorite
for fighting the alien menace the
Tau (with different tactics, it's good for Dark Eldar as well).
-HQ: Chaplian w/deathmask, jump pack, bolt pistol. D.CO w/jump
pack's.
Total: 211 pts
-Elites: Blood Angles Veteran Assult Squad: vet. Sergeant W/ power
fist and Plsma pistol (his
name is Adeon, guess where he came from); 2 w/bolt pistol and
cc weapon; 2 w/flamers.
Total: 204
-Troops: Scout Squad: vet. sergeant w/bolt pistol, power weapon;
4 scouts w/cc weapons and
bolt pistols.
Total: 93 pts
Scout Squad: 4 w/sniper rifles; 1 w/heavy bolter.
Total: 100
-Fast Attack: Assult Squad: Vet. Sergeant w/power weapon, bolt
pistol; 3 w/bolt pistol and cc
weapon; 2 w/ plasma pistol and cc weapon.
Total: 190 pts
Assult Squad: Vet. Sergeant w/power weapon, bolt pistol; 3 w/bolt
pistol and cc weapon; 2 w/
plasma pistol and cc weapon.
Total: 190 pts
Bike Squadron: Sergeant w/boltistol and cc weapon; 3 bikers, 1
w/melta gun; 1 Attack bike,
w/multi-melta.
Total:216 pts
-Heavy Support: Baal Class Preditor: W/Turret mounted twin linked
assult cannon, 2 side
sponson heavy bolters, hunter killer missle, extra armour, moke
launchers, dozer blades(if
needed).
Total:148 pts
Vindicator: w/hull mounted demolisher canon, smoke launchers,
hunter killer missle, extra armour,
dozer blades(if needed).
Total:148
Grand Total: 1,500 pts
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