CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD
 BloodAngelBrotherEdward.
       How's that putride ball of slimly puke of a vehicle coming? (IE, the Nurgle Infested Ultra Disgusting Vehicle)
 ZergCollective (2/23/2002 18:40). 
           oh you mean this little thing? :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/23/2002 19:06). 
               THOUSAND SONS fdsajkl (2/26/2002 3:17). 
       really nasty slennesh tactics....... baronsmeg (2/23/2002 18:48). 
           what models are used for chaos cultists? BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/23/2002 18:53). 
               well..... baronsmeg (2/23/2002 19:11). 
               RE: what models are used for chaos cultists? aradiel69 (2/24/2002 5:20). 
               Allsorts! Acidedge (2/24/2002 5:49). 
                   RE: Allsorts! DaBloodthirsta (2/26/2002 2:06). 
                       RE: RE: Allsorts! aradiel69 (2/26/2002 2:23). 
               Ok I love cultist and I use..... MikeyT (2/24/2002 10:04). 
       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD
 HarkonGreywolf (2/23/2002 18:51). 
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 WarpExarch (2/23/2002 18:55). 
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 Shadowsoul (2/23/2002 19:16). 
       May Sanguinius forgive your soul........ InquisitorDalloren (2/23/2002 19:29). 
           SSSSHHHHH!!!! :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/23/2002 23:22). 
               Open up, this is the Police! IMLessThanHO (2/24/2002 14:32). 
       YES YES INDEED IT IS KROGOTH (2/23/2002 20:44). 
       PROCLAIM YOUR HERECY WITH PRIDE!!! Peedo (2/24/2002 0:22). 
           I could have been more specific :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/24/2002 1:10). 
               RE: I could have been more specific :-) Peedo (2/24/2002 1:19). 
                   :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/24/2002 10:03). 
                       :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/24/2002 14:11). 
           C'mon, I need a reply so that I can start drawing! I don't stay motivated for long! Peedo (2/24/2002 1:09). 
       Welcome to the Dark Side chasgamoth (2/24/2002 0:39). 
           Khorne fdsajkl (2/24/2002 2:25). 
               RE: Khorne XeNoJaY (2/24/2002 5:57). 
               Bugsquashing 101 chasgamoth (2/24/2002 11:43). 
       My Nurgle tactics aradiel69 (2/24/2002 4:26). 
       Undivided or not? WarlordGarslob (2/24/2002 5:33). 
           RE: Undivided or not? aradiel69 (2/24/2002 5:48). 
       Can any one say khorne? berzerka (2/24/2002 9:48). 
       My favoutie units.......... thedudester (2/24/2002 10:47). 
       Crap units thedudester (2/24/2002 10:51). 
       Nurgle tatic DrQuiz (2/24/2002 12:13). 
       World Eaters Tactics gauss (2/24/2002 12:47). 
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 CtomFlyfast (2/24/2002 15:25). 
       allow the 1 of the resident DG players tell you about his army... ArtificerArmour (2/24/2002 15:39). 
           WOW! It's AA, I thought you were gone! (bump) (NT) Peedo (2/24/2002 17:53). 
               you were wrong then, nurgling. ArtificerArmour (2/25/2002 12:58). 
       where have all the chaos players gone? (NT) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/24/2002 21:57). 
       B.A.B.E what made you choose Nurgle? woodyelves (2/24/2002 22:01). 
           my advice for beginning Chaos players... BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/24/2002 23:21). 
               thank you woodyelves (2/25/2002 0:36). 
       Khorne's Teeth!!!! GROMDAMAD (2/24/2002 23:13). 
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 azbat62 (2/24/2002 23:19). 
       Some thoughts rotor (2/24/2002 23:43). 
       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD
 collosotyrant (2/25/2002 0:24). 
       It sure is quiet down here (BUMP) fdsajkl (2/25/2002 1:59). 
           Do you have any idea what time it is where I am? chasgamoth (2/25/2002 3:48). 
       Vanilla Tactics Lordof (2/25/2002 5:00). 
       Codex Heresy hun (2/25/2002 5:50). 
           RE: Codex Heresy ChaoticVeteran (2/25/2002 7:39). 
       BACK TO THE FRONT! WHACK! BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/25/2002 11:20). 
           RE: BACK TO THE FRONT! WHACK! dirithtai (2/25/2002 11:23). 
       slanneshi cultists Ashura (2/25/2002 11:39). 
       plague marine retinue and chaos lord Ashura (2/25/2002 11:46). 
       Iron Warriors firepower Ashura (2/25/2002 11:52). 
       my beloved nurgle dread visigoth (2/25/2002 12:01). 
       Tzeentch... nehekhare (2/25/2002 12:16). 
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 gerblash (2/25/2002 13:08). 
       bump for the bump god BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/26/2002 1:00). 
       word bearers liquidviolence (2/26/2002 4:53). 
       The futures bright, the future is chaos. Harkan (2/26/2002 5:58). 
       SLAANESH! LordCommanderEidolon (2/26/2002 8:26). 
       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD
 bornindarkness (2/26/2002 15:13). 
       Well, if your friend "Ignatious" doesn't mind, I'll just paint this chaos star on his head... ChaosS (2/26/2002 16:01). 
       Khorne or Nurgle LordOfNocturne (2/27/2002 2:37). 
       RE: Khorne or Nurgle ChaoticVeteran (2/27/2002 5:19). 
 
 

  CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD . (69
 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/23/2002 18:34 (2/27/2002 5:19) 
 Greetings Champions of Chaos!

 With the newest models for Chaos about to be released soon, and in next month's White Dwarf we get new
 information about Abaddon, the Black Legion, and the Horus Heresy, I figured it was about time for a good old
 fashioned Chaos Tactical Thread!

 Come one, come all ye followers of Chaos - share your favorite units and method of fighting against the pawns
 of the False Emperor! Or anyone else you care to pound on - I'm not picky - especially if it's funny :-)

 ~ Brother Edward (new servant of chaos??? bwahahahaa...)
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 

 PS. why am "I" writing this you may ask? well I'll tell you - I've spent a little while learning how to play the
 Blood Angels, and now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can
 push the Blood Angels to their limits (maybe dare i say break them???). So help me learn the mysterious ways
 of Chaos that I may hurl all of their true might against the servants of the False Emperor and find out who is right
 by right of COMBAT!. Teach me the dark secrets that I might find the very best ways not just to destroy Blood
 Angels, but Space Marines in general! BWAHAHAHAHA - Who knew being bad could be so much fun? :-)

 PSPS. This seminar is for ALL branches of Chaos - explain to me (and all the newbies) why your army is so
 much fun, and what's so effective about it! A special request for followers of Nurgle - I've gone with a Nurgle
 theme for my first Chaos army - so any tricks you Nurgle types may have please feel free to share! But I hope
 to hear from all the Chaos Lords - I want all the ways to punish those who serve the False Emperor that I can
 get!

 Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. 
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       How's that putride ball of slimly puke of a vehicle coming? (IE, the Nurgle Infested Ultra Disgusting Vehicle) . (2
 Replies). ZergCollective[]. 2/23/2002 18:40 (2/26/2002 3:17) 
 >Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

 SPACE BALLS!

 My thought for the Day: It's Mega-Maid! She's gone from suck to blow! 
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           oh you mean this little thing? :-) . (1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/23/2002 19:06 (2/26/2002 3:17) 
 oh it's still snot-tastic 

 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewPlagueRhinoPeek.html

 and here's a peek at what will become a Nurgle banner (still needs to be mounted on a pole and carried, but
 here's a peek anyway
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewNurgleShroud.html

 and a fun chaos battle report

 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewVisualBattleReportsIndex.html

 for those who want to see our most recent explorationf of chaos and Nurgle :-)

 I look forward to seeing what the servants of Chaos have to say about how they wage their campaigns against
 the False Emperor :-)

 ~ Brother Edward
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
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               THOUSAND SONS . (0 Replies). fdsajkl[]. 2/26/2002 3:17 (2/26/2002 3:17) 
 Are there any people who play thousand sons here?
 What sort of army do you field and what strengths and weaknesses does it have? 
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       really nasty slennesh tactics....... . (7 Replies). baronsmeg[]. 2/23/2002 18:48 (2/26/2002 2:23) 
 well most of this centers around the chaos lord and his retinue! first of you turn one of the retinue in to an icon
 bearer and give him the raptourouse standard, then make shure you have a screen of 50 cultists in front of you!
 because the cultists will never break when within 6" of the standard (actually any one with in 6" becomes
 fearless!) 

 another good one is to take a lot of transports with warp amps and just set them in possition to start messing
 with you opponents moral!

 another one for the lord and retinue - upgrade them all to aspiring champions and give them all 2 CC weapons
 and the slanesh mark and gift doom siren! seriously they become one of the deadlyest units this game has to
 offer! there is nothing more dangerous than massed flame templates! i know this because i originally thaught
 warpspiders still used the flammer template, and with 7 templates at ST6 it did not matter that it had no AP! i
 wiped out an entire squad of 10 terminators in a single round of shooting! yeh their save might be good but
 when they had to make the save 70 times their was not much they could do! now the doom siren is even better,
 it has an AP and can be anywhere from ST5 - 10 which is awsome, and very deadly!!!

 well thats it from me, i'm very new to chaos and i am slowwly building an emporers children army!

 baronsmeg and his mini lop! 
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           what models are used for chaos cultists? . (6 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/23/2002 18:53 (2/26/2002 2:23)
 thanks for the great/nasty advice good sir! What models does one use for cultists? I'm unfamiliar with the range
 of chaos minis! 
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               well..... . (0 Replies). baronsmeg[]. 2/23/2002 19:11 (2/23/2002 19:11) 
 >> thanks for the great/nasty advice good sir! What models does one use for cultists? I'm unfamiliar with the
 range of chaos minis!

 there are actuall minis for the cultists, and they are packaged 3 cultists per blister, they look like the cultists in
 chapter aproved (the purple ones!), but anything that looks like a human can work, heck even guards men can
 work! I've also heard that necromunda modles work great also!

 baronsmeg and his mini lop! 
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               RE: what models are used for chaos cultists? . (0 Replies). aradiel69[]. 2/24/2002 5:20 (2/24/2002 5:20) 
 >> thanks for the great/nasty advice good sir! What models does one use for cultists? I'm
 unfamiliar with the range of chaos minis!

 for nurgle cultists look at the scavvy range of necromunda models, the plague zombies look
 great as mindless nurgle cultists, then you have they scavvy mutants which look like the more
 gifted cultist who still have a bit of their mind left and some funky mutations, and use the
 normal scavvies as new recruits to the cult who haven't had time to get mutated or nurgles rot
 hasn't fully set in. and the scavvy boss makes a good demagogue (scavvy boss 1 on the mail
 order site is an awesome model).

 have a look at the scavvies at:

 http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?database=93&imgsize=a&do=Default&game=8&code=yes

 or you could just use WFB zombies but i think the necromunda range is much better 
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               Allsorts! . (2 Replies). Acidedge[acidedge@hotmail.com]. 2/24/2002 5:49 (2/26/2002 2:23) 
 Loads of models can be used for cultists!

 Firstly, there are the official GW cultists, which I think are a bit naff really.

 IG in various forms for the 'not-too-committed' chaos cultist.

 All the various necromunda models, Goliaths making good Khornate cultists and scavvies as mutants. (See
 above).

 Zombies for Nurgley armies.

 I'm going to use skeletons for Tzeentch cultists... the troops are all animated under the great sorcerers, why not
 the cultists too?

 Beastmen make good cultists, especially for heavily deamonic armies.

 Err, that's all that spring to mind at the mo.
 

 Acidedge

 P.S. Hurry up and get that Nurgle Rhino finished! I have faith that it'll look REALLY gross... 
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                   RE: Allsorts! . (1 Replies). DaBloodthirsta[]. 2/26/2002 2:06 (2/26/2002 2:23) 
 what do goliaths look like? 
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                       RE: RE: Allsorts! . (0 Replies). aradiel69[]. 2/26/2002 2:23 (2/26/2002 2:23) 
 >> what do goliaths look like?

 They are really big and muscular and have mohawks. they like wearing spikes and chains.

 check out the model range at

 http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?database=85&imgsize=a&do=Default&game=8&code=yes

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               Ok I love cultist and I use..... . (0 Replies). MikeyT[]. 2/24/2002 10:04 (2/24/2002 10:04) 
 >> thanks for the great/nasty advice good sir! What models does one use for cultists? I'm unfamiliar with the
 range of chaos minis!

 ......Zombies for my Nurgle force but I am being temtated by the great lord of Change-Tzeentch.

 But hey I mean any 'human' looking models will do. 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). HarkonGreywolf[]. 2/23/2002 18:51 (2/23/2002 18:51) 
 Good evening Brother Edward (UKtime!) and once again Welcome to the Dark Side!
 I collect Chaos as a basically Undivided force. My main-stay army is Night lords 'coz the colour scheme is out
 of this world!
 I have lots of terminators, an elite squad of 5 and my Lord and retinue of 5, there is also a Sorceror.
 There are 9 NL's Veterans with close combat armament and special weapons, 10 Chaos Marines squad again
 with close combat armament, both squads with rhinos.
 For fast attack I have two squads of 4 bikers, one with ccw and one with special weapons and I have a Raptor
 squad of 8.
 There is also a Night lords dreadnought, for the unpredictability factor!
 I also have allied 2 squads of 9 Iron Warriors veterans with bolters and 2 heavy weapons each, these I use as a
 fire base. In keeping with the Iron Warriors siege mentality! 
 I have a squad of 10 Alpha Legion marines armed tactically and a squad of 9 Alpha Legion havocs.
 Finally, for when I don't take the Sorceror (fluff again no sorceror when these guys are around!), I have an 18
 strong Khorne Berserker unit for up close and dirty work! (Sadly only half painted as yet, but give it time!)
 Oh yes, and just for luck a squad of 5 Chaos marines with bolters all with Lizardmen heads that I converted for
 a laugh! 
 When using a large army, over 4000pts, I basically attack as follows, the Berserkers and NL's vets and cc
 armed csm's in rhinos go for the throat as quickly as possible, backed up by a flank attack by the Raptors and 2
 Bike squads, sometimes both flanks! Depending on the opponents set-up.
 The Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion are a fixed firebase. The Dread usually just trundles off on his own and
 ends uop mowing down his own side, but there you go, madmen in tin-cans are likely to be a bit like that!
 And the Lord and termies follow up where necessary to finish evryone off.
 Least that's the theory, it never quite works like that in practice! But time will tell!

 Harkon Greywolf 

 >> Greetings Champions of Chaos!
 >> 
 >> With the newest models for Chaos about to be released soon, and in next month's White Dwarf we get new
 information about Abaddon, the Black Legion, and the Horus Heresy, I figured it was about time for a good old
 fashioned Chaos Tactical Thread!
 >> 
 >> Come one, come all ye followers of Chaos - share your favorite units and method of fighting against the
 pawns of the False Emperor! Or anyone else you care to pound on - I'm not picky - especially if it's funny :-)
 >> 
 >> ~ Brother Edward (new servant of chaos??? bwahahahaa...)
 >> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
 >> 
 >> PS. why am "I" writing this you may ask? well I'll tell you - I've spent a little while learning how to play the
 Blood Angels, and now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can
 push the Blood Angels to their limits (maybe dare i say break them???). So help me learn the mysterious ways
 of Chaos that I may hurl all of their true might against the servants of the False Emperor and find out who is right
 by right of COMBAT!. Teach me the dark secrets that I might find the very best ways not just to destroy Blood
 Angels, but Space Marines in general! BWAHAHAHAHA - Who knew being bad could be so much fun? :-)
 >> 
 >> PSPS. This seminar is for ALL branches of Chaos - explain to me (and all the newbies) why your army is so
 much fun, and what's so effective about it! A special request for followers of Nurgle - I've gone with a Nurgle
 theme for my first Chaos army - so any tricks you Nurgle types may have please feel free to share! But I hope
 to hear from all the Chaos Lords - I want all the ways to punish those who serve the False Emperor that I can
 get!
 >> 
 >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). WarpExarch[]. 2/23/2002 18:55 (2/23/2002 18:55) 
 Chaos is a good break from the "goody goody two shoes" forces inhabiting the inner 40K world, and gives
 people the experience of SM without all the been-there, done-that looks from opponents. When I take out my
 forces, people gawk at the hideous amounts of spikes and skulls spread throughout my army. The differences
 between chaos and loyal are many, from the blatantly obvious to the horrifyingly subtle (as in plague marines
 (you'd know that well) against.. uhh.. tactical marines?), with amazing daemons and lowly nurglings, the chaos
 force is mucho flexible. The space marines may have better terminators and more advanced tanks, but they lack
 the amount of tactical-marine variants and daemons that the chaos horde boasts. They also lack flavor (sing
 praises to the emperor is common, the gods each have their own style) that Chaos has in forte. Troops like
 assault squads are matched by Khorne Berserkers, Devastators are slightly better then havocs, dreadnought
 fights can get EXTREMELY ugly, chaos predators will occasionally win against loyal ones, the razorback reigns
 unopposed, special characters are well matched, and daemons stalk the battlefeild, hunting down scout squads
 and eating them (my friends bloodthirster killed 3 in the course of one game). All in all, SM and Chaos are only
 meant to fight each other(not just so they can hurl insults at each other, but for obvious other reasons as well)
 and the famous "duel" sub-game is actually feasible (ie. You killed my Primarch! You grafitti'ed my blackstone
 Fortress!) instead of unlikely matches between old one eye and O'shovah.. I will talk tactics later..

 >> Greetings Champions of Chaos!
 >> 
 >> With the newest models for Chaos about to be released soon, and in next month's White Dwarf we get new
 information about Abaddon, the Black Legion, and the Horus Heresy, I figured it was about time for a good old
 fashioned Chaos Tactical Thread!
 >> 
 >> Come one, come all ye followers of Chaos - share your favorite units and method of fighting against the
 pawns of the False Emperor! Or anyone else you care to pound on - I'm not picky - especially if it's funny :-)
 >> 
 >> ~ Brother Edward (new servant of chaos??? bwahahahaa...)
 >> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
 >> 
 >> PS. why am "I" writing this you may ask? well I'll tell you - I've spent a little while learning how to play the
 Blood Angels, and now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can
 push the Blood Angels to their limits (maybe dare i say break them???). So help me learn the mysterious ways
 of Chaos that I may hurl all of their true might against the servants of the False Emperor and find out who is right
 by right of COMBAT!. Teach me the dark secrets that I might find the very best ways not just to destroy Blood
 Angels, but Space Marines in general! BWAHAHAHAHA - Who knew being bad could be so much fun? :-)
 >> 
 >> PSPS. This seminar is for ALL branches of Chaos - explain to me (and all the newbies) why your army is so
 much fun, and what's so effective about it! A special request for followers of Nurgle - I've gone with a Nurgle
 theme for my first Chaos army - so any tricks you Nurgle types may have please feel free to share! But I hope
 to hear from all the Chaos Lords - I want all the ways to punish those who serve the False Emperor that I can
 get!
 >> 
 >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). Shadowsoul[]. 2/23/2002 19:16 (2/23/2002 19:16) 
 >> Greetings Champions of Chaos!
 >> 
 >> With the newest models for Chaos about to be released soon, and in next month's White Dwarf we get new
 information about Abaddon, the Black Legion, and the Horus Heresy, I figured it was about time for a good old
 fashioned Chaos Tactical Thread!
 >> 
 >> Come one, come all ye followers of Chaos - share your favorite units and method of fighting against the
 pawns of the False Emperor! Or anyone else you care to pound on - I'm not picky - especially if it's funny :-)
 >> 
 >> ~ Brother Edward (new servant of chaos??? bwahahahaa...)
 >> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
 >> 
 >> PS. why am "I" writing this you may ask? well I'll tell you - I've spent a little while learning how to play the
 Blood Angels, and now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can
 push the Blood Angels to their limits (maybe dare i say break them???). So help me learn the mysterious ways
 of Chaos that I may hurl all of their true might against the servants of the False Emperor and find out who is right
 by right of COMBAT!. Teach me the dark secrets that I might find the very best ways not just to destroy Blood
 Angels, but Space Marines in general! BWAHAHAHAHA - Who knew being bad could be so much fun? :-)
 >> 
 >> PSPS. This seminar is for ALL branches of Chaos - explain to me (and all the newbies) why your army is so
 much fun, and what's so effective about it! A special request for followers of Nurgle - I've gone with a Nurgle
 theme for my first Chaos army - so any tricks you Nurgle types may have please feel free to share! But I hope
 to hear from all the Chaos Lords - I want all the ways to punish those who serve the False Emperor that I can
 get!
 >> 
 >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

 Well, the first thing you want is loads of Plaguemarines as troops, 3 groups at least (i'm not kidding, these guys
 are harder than stone). With T5 and being fearless they are extremely resilent to eveything an opponent can
 throw at them (unless they throw demolishers/basilisks or any other Ap3 Str 7+ Ordnance against them ;). tactic
 with these guys are fairly simple, use them for whatever you need them to do, they are your bread and butter.
 They are actually pretty nasty in CC too because of their toughness.
 Lord: I recommend a Sorcererlord with the Psychic spell available (flamer that wounds on 4+ AP1). Gice him a
 good ol pair of plaguesword as well as blightgrenades and you have a veritable CC-monster (chaosarmor if
 points allow it). Take a retinue of more plaguemarines and make 3 or 4 of them asp champions, equip with
 plagueswords (yes, they are definately worth it, especially when fightnin nids...your carnifex had how many
 wounds you said? uh oh, look at that i wounded him and rolled a 4+ after that).
 Fast attack: Haven't tried demons but anything that moves 12" with an inv. save is pretty good. Raptors are
 extremely good with their fearsome charge and are recommended (expensive tho).
 Heavy support: Go with havocs with the occasional Landraider/Dreadnought thrown in.
 Elites: Whatever you feel you need, why not a group of Plague Terminators or some Berzerkers for more
 CC-abilities. Possessed are kinda fun sometimes.

 Rhinos/Daemons should be added to suit your style of play.
 

 Tactics with Nurgle is kinda like do whatever you want but do it at the right time :D
 Seriously with 30+ T5 guys you aren't going to run out of troops any time soon no matter what the enemy
 throws against them, not to mention they'll never run. Just protect your heavy support and lord and you're fine.
 Best opponent is probably one playing nids (low save/T/S makes you pratically invulnerable) or some fool with
 little high str weapons (starcannons aren't that dangerous when they only wound on 3+). Oh, and with most
 armies where the basic troops have only 1 CC-attack you try to avoid CC...don't with plaguemarines, there
 aren't any normal troops that can easily wound them in CC (alright, try to avoid genestealers but that goes for
 everything). 
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       May Sanguinius forgive your soul........ . (2 Replies). InquisitorDalloren[]. 2/23/2002 19:29 (2/24/2002 14:32) 
 As one little green friend of mine once said,

 "Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will....."

 =][= Jaq Dalloren. 
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           SSSSHHHHH!!!! :-) . (1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/23/2002 23:22 (2/24/2002 14:32) 
 >> As one little green friend of mine once said,
 >> 
 >> "Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will....."
 >> 
 >> =][= Jaq Dalloren.

 +++++ quiet down there Inquisitor, you'll blow our cover! :-)
 nothing to see here my good chaos buddies! no of course that's not an inquisitor! that big I stands for something
 completely different.... in fact it's for his name - Ingatious, he's a bit big on himself I'm afraid - puts big I's
 everywhere he goes - pay him no mind :-) now back to these chaos lists! (reaches over an muffles "Ignatious"
 protests :-) Oh the things I have to do to serve the Emperor... BLOOD GOD! Blood God I mean everyone!
 yeah - that's it - that's the ticket :-)

 ~ Brother Edward 
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               Open up, this is the Police! . (0 Replies). IMLessThanHO[]. 2/24/2002 14:32 (2/24/2002 14:32) 
 We have reports of one BloodAngelsBrotherEdward, recently converted to Nurgle, talking to one known
 Inquisitor Jaq "Ingatious" Dalloren. Were here to arrest you for illegaly talking with a follower of the Imperial
 Cult without killing them. You cant hide from us!

 >> >> As one little green friend of mine once said,
 >> >> 
 >> >> "Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will....."
 >> >> 
 >> >> =][= Jaq Dalloren.
 >> 
 >> +++++ quiet down there Inquisitor, you'll blow our cover! :-)
 >> nothing to see here my good chaos buddies! no of course that's not an inquisitor! that big I stands for
 something completely different.... in fact it's for his name - Ingatious, he's a bit big on himself I'm afraid - puts big
 I's everywhere he goes - pay him no mind :-) now back to these chaos lists! (reaches over an muffles "Ignatious"
 protests :-) Oh the things I have to do to serve the Emperor... BLOOD GOD! Blood God I mean everyone!
 yeah - that's it - that's the ticket :-)
 >> 
 >> ~ Brother Edward 
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       YES YES INDEED IT IS . (0 Replies). KROGOTH[]. 2/23/2002 20:44 (2/23/2002 20:44) 
 First off Ed, great to see you join the power of Chaos, even a Blood Angel can be tainted!

 Now to tactics...
 Me playing Night Lords, I love to trick my enemies, confuse them, and scare them.
 I start out with infiltrating the 1 Vet. squad I can ALWAYS do it with, usually armed with missile launcher and
 autocannon.
 I go forward with 2 loaded rhinos, 20 CSM on foot, and a Dread.
 Giving suport, 6 Havocs with 3 lascannons, and a Preditor.
 My enemies are too worried about that Vet. squad, so pretty much leave me alone on turn 1. Turn 2, im upon
 my enemy with the rhino squads, butchering whatever got close enough. Enemies get caught in crossfire,
 because that Vet squad has made its way behind ememy lines. I continue to pour fire down on them, and soon
 the 2 CSM and dread get into combat.

 well, thats 1 plan of mine
 ENJOY 
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       PROCLAIM YOUR HERECY WITH PRIDE!!! . (5 Replies). Peedo[]. 2/24/2002 0:22 (2/24/2002 14:11) 
 It is good to see that you now openly show your undermineing of the Imperium. I raise my tentical, sword, and
 object that resembles a hand that is holding the sword. Aucitaly I'm still waiting for most of that (I own a real
 katana, but I shant raise that because it could poke out an eye, and it's lost in the basement). The best thing
 about the great army of Nurgle is of course, anything and everything. Possesed are great, and so are the plague
 maines with there T5. Nurglings are extremly usefull for tatical porposses, as they can tie up unit's in close
 combat for the eintire game with there W3 and +5 invernerable save (wraithwhat? oh yea... I hope you don't
 plan on evey useing that thing). The besting thing is to have your plague mairine havoic's pop out of a Rhino and
 fire 3 melta-shot's and anything, or lot's and lots of plasma rapid-fire goodness.

 By the way, how do you see your former self as a Lord of the Blood Angles? I just need to know some basic's
 like:

 -Do you have a BIG sword or a REALLY BIG sowrd?
 -Bulkey or light armor?
 -Do you have sholderpad's, and if so, what insignia do you have one them?
 -Any special ordaments?

 I just want to know how you see yourself as I want to draw your conversition to chaos (basicly 'you' in front of
 a bloody altar on one knee with an errie black fog irraidiateing from you). No I don't do color to often as I'm
 not good at coloring, so don't bother giveing anything like that please. I'll try to get one of my scaner's fixed
 someday, but condiering my general energy, it may take awhile.

 -Peedo 
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           I could have been more specific :-) . (3 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/24/2002 1:10 (2/24/2002 14:11) 

 >> 
 >> By the way, how do you see your former self as a Lord of the Blood Angles? ......
 >> 
 >> I just want to know how you see yourself as I want to draw your conversition to chaos 
 >> 
 >> -Peedo

 ++++++ heya Peedo :-)

 I'm honored - but if you want to draw me you'll need to draw a loyal Blood Angel - feel free to make things as
 creepy as you like, but I'm loyal Blood Angel through and through. If one reads the beginning of the thread they
 will see this: "now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can push the
 Blood Angels to their limits " I am making chaos armies only to train my Blood Angels to fight to their highest
 capability :-) Sure it means I have to learn Chaos armies, but Blood Angels are my fave, my heart, my soul - I
 shall never abandon them, never turn on them. So again I'd be honored for you to draw something if you wish -
 I've never really given much thought to what I might liik like but I'll show you a couple of minis that I really like...
 here they are...

 my Chaplain
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewChaplainSharbiousPic1.html

 my Sanguinary High Priest
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisnewSanguinary1.html

 but the one thing I do know is that there is a Blood Angel symbol tatooed right in the middle of my forehead :-)

 thanks for thinking of me :-)

 Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward

 PS. I hope this becomes a really productive thread - for I really do want to play chaos well so that I can truly
 test my Blood Angels - one's quality may be measured by the quality of their adversaries :-)

 PSPS. here's another fun image that I made that conveys something of the way I see Blood Angels, dark,
 powerful - terrifying have a peek at this
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis/ExLibrisBestImages4.html 
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               RE: I could have been more specific :-) . (2 Replies). Peedo[]. 2/24/2002 1:19 (2/24/2002 14:11) 
 Give it a week to soak in, then call me in the morning and tell me if your still not fully corupted.
 It is hard to say that you are more devoted to one army then an other if you play them both (although your
 website may say different), espescialy if you play the tainting army of Chaos.

 Philisophical Mumbojumbo:
 Tell me on one faithfull the the emperior, do you see the emperior as an omnipotent being? If you do not see him
 as a being of unlimited power then that mean's that any charismatic leader can do exactly what he did if they had
 the dedacation. If you belive in his omnipotence then you must see him as a God, if you do not belive in his
 omnipotence, then he must be a false emperior that can be mimiced by a dedacated Hobo and you must fight
 him with all your strength.
 2nd question, do you belive in Free will?

 Please answer these question's when you are ready.

 -Peedo

 PS: please disregarde the previos message by me as I had posted it at the same moment you had posted your's
 and I was getting impaticent as all Lords of Chaos do... 
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                   :-) . (1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/24/2002 10:03 (2/24/2002 14:11) 
 >> Give it a week to soak in, then call me in the morning and tell me if your still not fully corupted.
 >> It is hard to say that you are more devoted to one army then an other if you play them both (although your
 website may say different), espescialy if you play the tainting army of Chaos.

 +++++ nah - must know the ways of the enemy so that we can destroy them :-)

 >> 
 >> Philisophical Mumbojumbo:
 >> Tell me on one faithfull the the emperior, do you see the emperior as an omnipotent being? If you do not see
 him as a being of unlimited power then that mean's that any charismatic leader can do exactly what he did if they
 had the dedacation. If you belive in his omnipotence then you must see him as a God, if you do not belive in his
 omnipotence, then he must be a false emperior that can be mimiced by a dedacated Hobo and you must fight
 him with all your strength.
 >> 2nd question, do you belive in Free will?

 +++++ Space Marines do not view the Empperor as a God, they view him as a very capable leader - the
 MOST capable leader whose vision and leadership will save and protect humanity from all threats.

 +++++ Space Marines (especially Blood Angels) I believe do believe in free will - it is their choice every day to
 serve the Emperor. People knowing good and evil (and choosing evil) is how evil comes into being (aka the
 Horus Heresy). Blood Angels (just like everyone else) do have their own ideas about how things might be done
 - but they choose every day to serve the Emperor - they choose every day to bow their will to the will of the
 leader they believe in - the leader whom their Primarch believed in. Their faith is without measure. Some less
 faithful members of the Imperium suggest with hushed whispers that the Blood Angels have a flaw (their Black
 Rage) however this is a misconception. The psychic deathcry of our Primarch aboard Horus's Battlebarge was
 so powerful that it reaches across time and resonates (sometimes) among those who have his geneseed - Blood
 Angels (when focused in prayer - often before battle) are sometimes overwhelmed by visions of the experienced
 which Sanguinius endured in his last days fighting to protect the Emperor and especially his last hours aboard
 Horus's Battlebarge. We each know all too well of our Primarch's sacrifice, and we each will gladly give our life
 in the effort to serve. The Emperor is flesh, the Primarchs his children and we are their offspring. His
 righteousness and power are beyond measure - he will rule forever, and we will serve him forever.

 How's that for an answer? We should have called this email "interview with a Blood Angel" :-)

 Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
 

 >> 
 >> Please answer these question's when you are ready.
 >> 
 >> -Peedo
 >> 
 >> PS: please disregarde the previos message by me as I had posted it at the same moment you had posted
 your's and I was getting impaticent as all Lords of Chaos do... 
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                       :-) . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/24/2002 14:11 (2/24/2002 14:11) 
 a mysterious force knocks the thread back tot he front - whammo :-) 
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           C'mon, I need a reply so that I can start drawing! I don't stay motivated for long! . (0 Replies). Peedo[]. 2/24/2002
 1:09 (2/24/2002 1:09) 

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       Welcome to the Dark Side . (3 Replies). chasgamoth[]. 2/24/2002 0:39 (2/24/2002 11:43) 
 Greetings Brother Edward,

 No Khornate warriors have put in their two cents yet, so I guess it's my ball now.

 I just played in a 1000-point tournament today, 3 rounds, and went undefeated with a World Eaters list. So I'll
 post my list and say what I did and how it all worked out.

 HQ
 World Eaters Mighty Champion with MoK, Lightning Claws, Meltabombs, Spiky Bits

 I would've gone with an Exalted Champ, but I was working on shaving points down. Frankly, I intended to dish
 out pain rather than take it, and except for Wounds, the stat lines are the same. 4 S5 attacks, re-rolling one
 attack and all wounding rolls makes for a pretty mean assault punch for just 90 points.

 Elites
 5-man WE Possessed squad in Rhino with Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Destroyer

 I really should use a bigger squad of these guys, but I was trying something new (wanted to save points for
 heavy support) and decided they would at least give my opponents something else to shoot at. Besides, there's
 always the chance of getting power weapons and invulnerable as their powers...

 Troops
 2x8-man WE Berzerker squads, each with Champion (free) with MoK, Axe of Khorne, Spiky Bits,
 Meltabombs; 2 Plasma Pistols, Rhino with Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Destroyer

 Ah, the meat of the army. World Eaters Berzerkers are deadly assault troops, with their chainaxe rule (mmm,
 choppa), insane number of attacks, and sheer bloody-minded determination. I always give my champs Axes of
 Khorne rather than normal power weapons because it's characterful, and because at least once a game I tend to
 roll a ridiculous string of 6s.

 Heavy Support
 WE Dreadnought with TL Lascannon, TL Bolters, CCW, Extra Armor

 I love this guy. In an infantry army a dread doesn't last, since he gets picked out by every antitank weapon
 around, but when he's in a force with 3 APCs, he suddenly becomes a low lascannoning priority and can
 actually survive and do some decent harm to things. The lascannon gives handy long-range anti-vehicular aid to
 my World Eaters without compromising their character as an assault army, as the Dreadnought stomps forward
 hoping to blood-rage into an assault for 7(!) S10 power weapon attacks.
 

 My normal tactic is a straight-on punch in force. I will try to deploy my Rhinos behind cover (hull-down or,
 better yet, out of sight altogether), with the Dread on one flank. I've taken to deploying my troops behind their
 Rhinos so that, on turn 1, they can get in and go even if they fail their blood frenzy rolls. This also prevents
 whole squads being popped by ordnance "6" results on turn 1, before I have the chance to pop smoke. I will
 always opt to go first against shooty armies (so I can close as fast as possible) and usually second against
 assault armies (so they either have to waste a turn or come to me so I can jump on them).

 Turn 1 I rush forward headlong, using all my smoke launchers, ignoring cover unless it's obvious and handy (in
 which case I'll save my smoke). The Dread stomps forward on the flank. If he fire frenzies, I'll take bolter hits
 on my vehicles (which will be closer) and save the lascannon hits for nearby enemies.

 Turn 2, any Rhinos still mobile move up to assault range and unload their cargo of death. The Chaos Lord
 usually rides with a 'zerker squad, especially if the Possessed got "daemonic speed" (he couldn't keep up). I
 blast any vehicles I can with plasma pistols (and the Dread's lascannon), then assault pretty much whatever I
 can. Even Genestealers will go down before a determined assault. Today, for example, I managed to
 simultaneously assault a 24-strong Hormagaunt pack with all 3 of my main units. The Gaunts killed one
 Possessed. I killed 24 Gaunts and swept on. The next combat phase saw my Chaos Lord mow down one
 injured Ravener and two healthy ones single-handed, in exchange for three of his squad.

 Turns 3 and onward I will concentrate on hacking down enemy infantry and running over them if at all possible
 (I love the Destroyer). Hopefully the Dread will pile in around turn 4-5 and add his might to the combat. At this
 point all order has usually dissolved into a chaotic melee--just what the children of Khorne love.

 There's what works for me. Blood for the Blood God!

 Chasgamoth the Reaper, Chosen of Khorne 
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           Khorne . (2 Replies). fdsajkl[]. 2/24/2002 2:25 (2/24/2002 11:43) 
 How does a World Eaters army do against a Tyranid one?

 Should I beef up the lord's retinue or just get stacks and stacks of Bezerkers? 
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               RE: Khorne . (0 Replies). XeNoJaY[]. 2/24/2002 5:57 (2/24/2002 5:57) 
 >> How does a World Eaters army do against a Tyranid one?
 >> 
 >> Should I beef up the lord's retinue or just get stacks and stacks of Bezerkers?
 

 take plenty of berzerkers, a dread or two, and beef up your lord & retinue as much as possible after that... oh
 and bloodletters & juggers are really good, especially juggers 
 take rhinos with destroyer, it works remarkably well for eldar, imperial guard, orks and nids, 
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               Bugsquashing 101 . (0 Replies). chasgamoth[]. 2/24/2002 11:43 (2/24/2002 11:43) 
 Ok, here's what works well for whacking bugs.

 Little Bugs (Gaunts, Genestealers):
 Berzerkers have the sheer number of attacks necessary to pulp Gaunts like you wouldn't believe. They'll win
 against Gaunt mobs that outnumber them, even 2-3 to 1. For Genestealers, Bloodletters work very well. Their 2
 S5 attacks can do good damage against them and they have an invulnerable save against those damnable
 rending claws. A Dreadnaught is a waste against Gaunts--you'll never kill all of them--but Rhinos work
 wonders. Arm with a Destroyer and plow straight through, hitting as many as possible. You'll kill roughly half the
 Gaunts you hit. It's beautiful. A beefed retinue will hack down Gaunts, but tends to lose more than you can
 afford against Genestealers.

 Big Bugs (Carnifex, Tyrant, Raveners):
 For these guys, high strength is a must. Berzerker champions with Axes of Khorne can sometimes do surprising
 things (one of mine once hacked down a Carnifex single-handed by getting 8 hits) but you can't count on them.
 Raveners can be killed by Berzerkers, but for the really big stuff, you want big things of your own. A
 blood-raging Chaos Dread is a good way to pop a Carnifex (7 S10 attacks before the Carni gets to swing), but
 it's risky, since the fex will mow down the Dread if it ever gets a chance. A big Chaos Lord with MC lightning
 claws and spiky bits is a better bet. He should get at least 2 wounds on the fex and, with an Axe of
 Khorne-armed Champion, between them they ought to put it down. If you should get power weapon,
 invulnerable Possessed, these guys are death on the big bugs, especially the slow-moving Carnifex. With their
 S5 power weapons they can chew through even big critters with ease.

 Plasma pistols are a must, for smacking down things like Tyrant Guard and wounding larger bugs. I usually arm
 my Dread with a TL Lascannon but a Plasma Cannon is also a good choice. Bolt-pistol Genestealers if at all
 possible to cut down their numbers before closing--the fewer dice your opponent gets, the fewer rending claw
 6s there'll be.

 Blood for the Blood God!
 Chasgamoth the Reaper, Chosen of Khorne 
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       My Nurgle tactics . (0 Replies). aradiel69[]. 2/24/2002 4:26 (2/24/2002 4:26) 
 Ok now my Nurgle army is very much assault based as I used to play blood angels so I got into the habit of
 liking assault.

 my basic army setup in my lord with his retinue of 6 plague marines (2 of them aspiring champions and one with
 a plague banner) all with bp/ccw, one with a meltagun in a rhino, my great unclean one, 7 possessed with
 bp/ccw in a rhino, 7 plague marines with bp/ccw including 1 aspiring champion and 1 metlagunner, 2 packs of 7
 plague bearer, 7 nurgling bases and a Nurgle infested dreadnought.

 My basic tactic is to get into assault as fast as possible, I usually plan to be in assault by turn 2 or 3 so then I can
 have my daemons helping out. how I usually deploy is with my dreadnought out in the middle to draw as much
 firepower as possible (he is damn hard and never dies), then I set my lord, possessed and plague marines
 rhino's up behind cover ready to drive up the battlefield. first turn is usually my rhinos driving up popping smoke
 as they go with my dreadnought lay down fire as he advances (I place my nurgling bases just behind my
 dreadnought so if he fire frenzies he will just hit the nurglings, and usually when he is close to the enemy when I
 want him to fire frenzy the enemy has already killed the nurgling leaving him free to fire frenzy into the enemy).
 second turn I try to summon my lesser daemons off my lead rhinos, usually scattering with in range of some of
 the flank units and charging them tying them up till my other squads can get to them to finish them off. about turn
 3 is when my major assaults take place with my lord going after most powerful squad (usually termies or honour
 guard) letting off the plague banner as they charge (D6 wounds, no armour save and the Nurgle player chooses
 who dies) then my lord with his plague sword and the 2 aspiring champions with their power weapons finish the
 rest of the squad off. my possessed it varies on who they assault by what they roll on the possession table but I
 play deathguard so they always get fearsome so I try to get for a unit that isn't fearless. my plague marines just
 charge whoever is left. then sometime around now my great unclean one shows up and totally fails to do
 anything and dies horribly, but at least he is trying 8-). and basically I just continue to charge until everything is
 dead. the only problem my army does have is a lack of firepower with only the 2 meltaguns and the twin-linked
 lascannon on my dread but I find that does ok for most battles.

 my tactics are abit cheap but they are effective, especially if I get good daemon drops and if they waste most
 their firepower on my dread.

 as always, check out my website for picture, fiction and army list for my Nurgle army at:

 http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~rich-mac/40k/

 P.S, I am remaking my Nurgle infested dreadnought, I will be using the metal chaos dreadnought chassis and a
 lot of green stuff, I am currently looking for ideas on what to sculpt on it. 
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       Undivided or not? . (1 Replies). WarlordGarslob[]. 2/24/2002 5:33 (2/24/2002 5:48) 

 >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

 I like that.
 anyway I wana know if its better to hsve an undivided chaos army, or to pick a God? (im considering Nurgle or
 Slaneesh). 
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           RE: Undivided or not? . (0 Replies). aradiel69[]. 2/24/2002 5:48 (2/24/2002 5:48) 
 >> 
 >> >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.
 >> 
 >> I like that.
 >> anyway I wana know if its better to hsve an undivided chaos army, or to pick a God? (im considering
 Nurgle or Slaneesh).

 undivided armies are more flexible but i find an army themed to a god is more fun to play with.

 btw, I play a fully Nurgle army, read my post above about my army if you are interested. 
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       Can any one say khorne? . (0 Replies). berzerka[]. 2/24/2002 9:48 (2/24/2002 9:48) 
 Hello Brother Edward and all.

 I still see you can use your philiscopical ways for evil.
 Love the nurgle pics so far, BUT! i want to see more. 
 Im trying to get my page moving, Its half doen, but im not showing any sneek previews :). 

 berzerka
 

 >> Greetings Champions of Chaos!
 >> 
 >> With the newest models for Chaos about to be released soon, and in next month's White Dwarf we get new
 information about Abaddon, the Black Legion, and the Horus Heresy, I figured it was about time for a good old
 fashioned Chaos Tactical Thread!
 >> 
 >> Come one, come all ye followers of Chaos - share your favorite units and method of fighting against the
 pawns of the False Emperor! Or anyone else you care to pound on - I'm not picky - especially if it's funny :-)
 >> 
 >> ~ Brother Edward (new servant of chaos??? bwahahahaa...)
 >> http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
 >> 
 >> PS. why am "I" writing this you may ask? well I'll tell you - I've spent a little while learning how to play the
 Blood Angels, and now my job is to make some of the most fearsome Chaos armies imaginable so that I can
 push the Blood Angels to their limits (maybe dare i say break them???). So help me learn the mysterious ways
 of Chaos that I may hurl all of their true might against the servants of the False Emperor and find out who is right
 by right of COMBAT!. Teach me the dark secrets that I might find the very best ways not just to destroy Blood
 Angels, but Space Marines in general! BWAHAHAHAHA - Who knew being bad could be so much fun? :-)
 >> 
 >> PSPS. This seminar is for ALL branches of Chaos - explain to me (and all the newbies) why your army is so
 much fun, and what's so effective about it! A special request for followers of Nurgle - I've gone with a Nurgle
 theme for my first Chaos army - so any tricks you Nurgle types may have please feel free to share! But I hope
 to hear from all the Chaos Lords - I want all the ways to punish those who serve the False Emperor that I can
 get!
 >> 
 >> Thought for the Day: Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. 
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       My favoutie units.......... . (0 Replies). thedudester[]. 2/24/2002 10:47 (2/24/2002 10:47) 
 Raptors - expensive, but awesome. Hug the cover before striking a slow enemy. If you win, they flee
 automatically! If not, just break combat, if youre lucky, they will get back into cover!

 Preadator - My quadra lascannon, possessed preadator is invaluable for wraithlord huntin'

 Bloodthirster - expensive, random, but an absoulte monster in HTH. Good for facing the evil wraithlords. You
 need lotsa champs, though, so not much use in small battles.

 Chaos Marines - Its obvious, but these guys are great. They can be either CC oriented or shooty, and are very
 good for a troop choice.

 possesed marines - if you are lucky, these guys are AMAZING. If not, they can be a bit dissapointing. Still,
 very chaotic.

 Cultists - excellent screening unit, and can have a lot of firepower for relativley low cost. Everyones fav,
 methinks. 
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       Crap units . (0 Replies). thedudester[]. 2/24/2002 10:51 (2/24/2002 10:51) 
 daemons - CSM can do everything better than these guys, I only use them if I have the chaos icon

 daemon prince - no retinue. overpriced upgrades. cack.

 dreadnought - £!!)(*@ fire frezy rule has cost me more times than i want to remember. Its a stupid contadictory
 rule anyway.

 Obliterators - THE worst unit in 40K. take havocs. Always. They are so crap and overcosted its laughable. 
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       Nurgle tatic . (0 Replies). DrQuiz[]. 2/24/2002 12:13 (2/24/2002 12:13) 
 >> Greetings Champions of Chaos!
 >> 
 >> Nurglings as core units as many as you can take.
 I read in an old white dwarf where a guy used 20 some bases of nurglings and 2 great unclean ones.
 at least one unclean one.
 no vehicles its not in character for the death guard.
 lord in term armour and plauge sword to make plauge bearers.
 each unit champion in term armor for survivability.
 retinue for your lord should be veterns
 two dreads use vdr rules to make one a ccc monster.
 blight grenades
 palanquins for aspiring champion if their included when the new book comes out.
 a nurgle sorceror. 
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       World Eaters Tactics . (0 Replies). gauss[gauss46@hotmail.com]. 2/24/2002 12:47 (2/24/2002 12:47) 
 Here's a few lessons I've learned with World Eaters:

 1. Rhinos are a near-essential part of the army. Anything which gives you a chance to spill blood faster has to be
 a good thing!
 2. No matter how much you want to get into hand-to-hand, be sure to use some form of cover along the way.
 In most cases survivability is more important than speed.
 3. Power fists are a good thing to have for your Aspiring Champions. Punching through armor and Wraithlords
 is always a good thing.
 4. Don't take a single big target, ie a Dreadnought, and if you do keep it in cover until you need it.
 5. Juggernauts are incredibly nasty Daemons. If you can afford to I recommend picking up a few, say three to a
 squad (any more and they won't fit on the Summoning template).
 6. If you don't use the actual World Eaters rules, bringing along some normal Chaos Marines or Havocs for
 firepower may serve you well. Damnable, but true.
 7. Large squads of Cultists make excellent human shields should you lack a Rhino.
 8. Bloodletters are only useful if you remember to summon them.

 Lord Gauss, Terror of the Eastern Seaboard 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). CtomFlyfast[]. 2/24/2002 15:25 (2/24/2002 15:25) 
 Things you want to have in a cult army

 Rhinos for almost every squad
 Dreadnoughts as heavys, but you must have other things for the anti tank wepons to fire at. Like lots of rhinos.
 Mostly basic troops, and lots of them.
 "cheep" but powerful hqs
 other then world eaters you can't take bikes, but WE bikes are great. Just don't take them in non-cult armies.

 Things you don't want
 lots of points in one place. Only EC should take a maxed out champ.
 hq squads, just take a champ then put him in a squad. don't glue him to one.
 Daemons are good but not in disproportionate numbers. 
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       allow the 1 of the resident DG players tell you about his army... . (2 Replies). ArtificerArmour[]. 2/24/2002 15:39
 (2/25/2002 12:58) 

 hmmm...well...

 i must talk about my sorceror first. a converted WHFB sorceror (the fat pointing one), he used the new rules for
 psykers the other day, and lo and behold:

 the dance of nurgle

 i made an opposite man dance! if that isnt fun, you need a vacation.

 if you want more, i'll be happy to explain the gory details behind my possessed ;)

 join the cavalcade of nurgle!
 play!
 AA 
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           WOW! It's AA, I thought you were gone! (bump) (NT) . (1 Replies). Peedo[]. 2/24/2002 17:53 (2/25/2002 12:58) 
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               you were wrong then, nurgling. . (0 Replies). ArtificerArmour[]. 2/25/2002 12:58 (2/25/2002 12:58) 
 well, not exactly gone, just gone to pasteurs new (portent.net :P)

 play!
 AA 
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       where have all the chaos players gone? (NT) . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/24/2002 21:57 (2/24/2002
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       B.A.B.E what made you choose Nurgle? . (2 Replies). woodyelves[]. 2/24/2002 22:01 (2/25/2002 0:36) 
 I am thinking of doing Chaos instead of my normal armies(BA and space wolves) As I am young I have a hard
 time sticking to one armie and choosing one. Now in WHF I did Khorne and Tzneetch and liked them but the
 thought of infected warriors and many conversions is very tempting. I just wanted to know how you decided on
 doing Nurgle and If you have any advice on sticking with one army/choosing one army,

 Thanks in advance. 
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           my advice for beginning Chaos players... . (1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/24/2002 23:21 (2/25/2002 0:36) 
 >> I am thinking of doing Chaos instead of my normal armies(BA and space wolves) As I am young I have a
 hard time sticking to one armie and choosing one. Now in WHF I did Khorne and Tzneetch and liked them but
 the thought of infected warriors and many conversions is very tempting. I just wanted to know how you decided
 on doing Nurgle and If you have any advice on sticking with one army/choosing one army,
 >> 
 >> Thanks in advance.

 ++++ my chaos army was slowly made over many months of (in all honesty) buying minis I thought were cool
 :-) I have a bunch of chaos space marines, Khorne berserkers, plague marines, some terminators, and an odd
 selection of specialty minis (no vehicles yet though) but basically I have the units that are found in most ANY
 chaos army - so now with only a modest investment I can field any of the chaos army variants - right now I'm
 investigating Nurgle, got myself the great Unclean one, some nurglings, some plague bearers (plague armies are
 just fun to paint!) - basically I say go for a blend of things so that you can be flexible, then specialize in whatever
 interests you :-) I think the nurgle army really caught my interest though because I had not played against them
 until recently - and discovered how amazingly tough plague marines were! So this being a new challenge - I
 wanted to dive into it and see what's what! :-)

 My background with the Blood Angels has made me fairly familiar with the strategies of Khornate armies, and
 later I'll hit tzentch and slaanesh variants :-)

 that's about all I know! I hope this helped! :-)

 Glory to the Emperor and Sanguinius ~ Brother Edward
 http://www.dragonrealm.com/exlibrismortis 
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               thank you . (0 Replies). woodyelves[]. 2/25/2002 0:36 (2/25/2002 0:36) 
 I am just doing chaos for all the conversions =) 
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       Khorne's Teeth!!!! . (0 Replies). GROMDAMAD[]. 2/24/2002 23:13 (2/24/2002 23:13) 
 What's this!? BA hath turned from the rotting corpse the Imperium calls Emperor? Hmm I'm not so sure about
 this but I'll take his word...for the moment. :D

 Well first of all my main army is Worldeaters and I usually run 1500 pts. Well my main tactic is very simple
 actually, CHARGE!!!!! I run two squads of 8 WE Bezerkers on foot each w/an Axe of Khorne toting Asp.
 Champ. and a squad of 8 Chosen of Khorne in a Rhino. I run these up toward the enemey while recieving
 covering fire from a WE Dreadnought w/Plasma Cannon and a Preadator Anhilator w/Twin Linked Lascannons
 and Heavy Bolters. Once my guys get close enough the plan is for the daemons (8 Bloodletter and 5 Flesh
 Hounds) to jump out and assit them. Oh and of course as all this is going on my DP (Axe of Khorne, Daemonic
 Armour, Rune of Chaos, and Wings) is flying up the middle taking advantage of the Shooting at Independent
 Character Rule. And once he gets there w/the rest things usually go my way. :D Alas, things do not always go as
 planned. 

 Anyway that's my general strategy. 

 BFTG!!! SFTST!!!

 GROMDAMAD 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). azbat62[]. 2/24/2002 23:19 (2/24/2002 23:19) 
 my tactic is straight forward. get to them as soon as possible. if it can carry troops and move 12" then it is in my
 army. i play wordbearers and use alot of flamers, meltaguns, plasmeguns, multimeltas,(the burning truth of
 choas) and lascannons( the beaken in the dark galaxy of the imperium). mark of choice is chaos
 undivided(rerole those failed leadership test). i do like bikers quick burning death of the melta gun is great for
 chasing down those imperial tanks(yes i did chase a whirlwind around a table with a lone biker). raptors,
 something about being able to bring four plasm guns to a fight in a 5 man squad. but most importantly is the
 terminators!! ecery race i fight fears my termies. (a 2000pt army of tau shot at my termies and had to even use
 rail guns again them to kill them).do not forget that sorcerer with the doom bolt(walking heavy bolter). that is my
 version of the chaos army. 
 
 

 ps. chaos does one thing better that almost any other amry assualt assault assault. almost all chaos armies are set
 to assault.
 
 
 

 kilroy winterhart
 chaos lord of the wordbearer legion 2nd company 
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       Some thoughts . (0 Replies). rotor[]. 2/24/2002 23:43 (2/24/2002 23:43) 
 My favorite troops in the chaos army are the veterans, Plague Marines, Possesed, bikers and raptors and here's
 why:

 Veterans: These guy's are probably the most versatile in the 40K world, not only can they take two heavy
 weapons or special weapons, they also can choose to have a transport , two CCw or bolter and most of all
 they can infiltrate. This adds up to the fact that they can be used for any role on the battlefield: as a spearhead in
 a rhino with double melta guns or flamers (*WHoooossh*)
 or infiltrating with two autocannons for taking out lighter tanks or Landspeeder or Tank destroyers with twin
 lascannons or MLauncher.

 Plague Marines: These guy's are just rock hard in assaults with T5 and blightGrenades.

 Possesed: Are such a fun unit and so chaotic although expensive.
 Mostly I like them for the fun of making and painting them, but they can have a devastating effect in CC I
 probably would take 9 of these than a souped up retinue for my lord

 Bikers: Fast moving, hardhitting and good firepower whats not to 
 like about them maybe the pts cost but i think they are worth them, the rapid firing plasma gun hurts.

 Raptors: Same as possesed but these can have a tremendous impact if played correctly, the fearsome charge is
 never to be underestimated. I killed a BloodAngel librarian with honour guard with five of them (Crossfire of
 course), can also have a lot of firepower.

 Time is 05.43 AM here so I'm a bit tired. But if I think of some more I'll post it.

 RotoR 

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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). collosotyrant[]. 2/25/2002 0:24 (2/25/2002 0:24) 
 Well, from my experience with nurgle, they have some of the best assault troops in the game!! The nurgle
 marines with plauge knife and cc weapon are downright obscene in hth, take a marine assault squad 4-5 turns to
 wipe em all out!!!!, add to that the fact theyll probably wipe the assault squad out with the awesome plauge
 sword on the champions! Against tyranid the followers of Papa Nurgle are extremely effective!!!! we nids think
 we are the toughest, well move over hehe. And the plauge sword makes the monsterous creatures shake in their
 boots! Add to this their vehicle upgrade nurgle infestation, its turns predators front armor into land raiders front
 armor!!!! and also makes rhinos much more difficult to kill. The terminators of nurgle are also quite fearsome,
 they are very difficult to kill with toughness 5. I have a special tactic with them in deep strike scenarios, I give all
 my terminators combi flamers and when i deep strike in i let loose with SEVEN flamers, needless to say, that
 destroys entire squads of most thing with ease. Ive destroyed an entire ork boy mob of 32 with this tactic!!!
 And since they are very tough and have a 2+ save they can usually surivive the enemies shooting phase :-) My
 old nurgle army defeated my tyranid army quite regularly, and my nid army has VERY few losses to its credit. 

 Also nurgle squads make highly effective shooting squads, armed with their bolters they can easily take care of
 most other assault armies while taking very few casualties from shooting themselves. This works especially well
 when you are screening for several havoc squads, and/or veteran squads. All in all nurgle armies are HIGHLY
 flexible, and can perform either function(shooting or assaulting) quite well. And if you ever need to take a
 position and hold it, these disgusting piles of filth are the best around!!!!

 Sorry Papa Nurgle, but Khorne is more my style

 (sold my nurgle army for my khorne army, not cuz it wasnt good, but cause its not my style)

 Blood for the blood god,
 Flesh for the flayer,
 Skulls for the skull throne,
 Souls for the slayer! 
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       It sure is quiet down here (BUMP) . (1 Replies). fdsajkl[]. 2/25/2002 1:59 (2/25/2002 3:48) 
 Where is everyone? 
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           Do you have any idea what time it is where I am? . (0 Replies). chasgamoth[]. 2/25/2002 3:48 (2/25/2002 3:48) 
 >> Where is everyone?

 Well, I'm in Minnesota, it's 2:47am by my computer clock, and I'm going to sleep now. I have class in almost
 exactly 7 hours, European History. Must...sleep...

 Blood for the Blood...yawn...zzzz
 Chasgamoth the (weary) Reaper, Chosen of Khorne 
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       Vanilla Tactics . (0 Replies). Lordof[]. 2/25/2002 5:00 (2/25/2002 5:00) 
 Tactics....

 Hmmm first get a nasty HtH lord who can move about quickly (jetpack, bike, rhino, Landraider)

 Then get a very solid shooting core (Standard marines and havoc squads)

 Then get a very solid HtH core (possessed)

 And then use the rest of your points to deal with any challenges that may come your way (WL Armour 14 tanks
 capture table quarters etc.)
 

 This is of course for a Vanilla Chaos Force

 The force's tactic vary from enemy to enemy for a footslogger ork army sit back and shoot and allow your lord
 and possessed to bolster your line against attack

 Against marines use your Marines to shoot up a flank for a rapid strike by your lord and possessed
 

 Also never ever forget a distraction

 If your possessed are getting shot at heaps move them far out to a flank and behind cover to get your opponent
 to redeploy his forces to cover this threat

 Another good one is the Landraider this tank is a fire magnet give it smoke launchers and move it 12 inches first
 turn and fire the smoke launchers. After that move 12 inches again and use the machine spirit to fire the Heavy
 bolters as more of an annoyance. If it lives to reach the other side of the board drive it behind his lines to get
 crossfires and make all sorts of comments on how well it is performing against him to get him to want to hit it
 with more weapons and kill it. 
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       Codex Heresy . (1 Replies). hun[]. 2/25/2002 5:50 (2/25/2002 7:39) 
 I remember hearing about games workshop thinking about publishing a new campaign codex called codex
 heresy simialr to codex armageddon. Does anybody no any more about it. Is the release of the new chapter
 models a build up to a new worldwide campaign? 
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           RE: Codex Heresy . (0 Replies). ChaoticVeteran[]. 2/25/2002 7:39 (2/25/2002 7:39) 
 >> I remember hearing about games workshop thinking about publishing a new campaign codex called codex
 heresy simialr to codex armageddon. Does anybody no any more about it. Is the release of the new chapter
 models a build up to a new worldwide campaign?

 +++perhaps, who knows, but it would be nice to replay the horus heresy :))

 After the release of the new minis (next months WD), i think that i will start collecting Black legion. I already
 have Abbadon (its a sin not to have him). I think it will be fun to collect the army made up of completely new
 minis :) 

 At the moment i play two armies, World Eaters (complete devotion to Khorne) and Iron Warriors (a little more
 versatitlity:) I prefer big games, of 2000+ points and depending on my mood, ill choose my army. Recently i
 played a 2400 pt battle against those pesky greenskins. It was a made up cenario and i used to IW (havent
 used them for a while, so thought that id shooth the hell out of the orks:) My basic tactic was to soften them up
 with some heavy firepower (coming from 2 vet. squads with 2 missile launchers and 2 heavy bolters, 2 CSM
 squads with 2 lascannons and ofcourse my precious basilisk:D ) then when they got close, my squad of Khorne
 Berzerkers and my Fallen Angels charged right in, pounding those little greenskins. 

 If i play smalll battles, i usually play with WE cos they have daemons and juggers (and those are my favourite :)) 

 Those are my 2 cents

 ChaosVeteran 
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       BACK TO THE FRONT! WHACK! . (1 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/25/2002 11:20 (2/25/2002 11:23) 
 apparently chaos sleeps in on Mondays...
 ~ Brother Edward 
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           RE: BACK TO THE FRONT! WHACK! . (0 Replies). dirithtai[]. 2/25/2002 11:23 (2/25/2002 11:23) 
 Ah, thank you, Bloodangel Brother Edward, I forgot about them. 
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       slanneshi cultists . (0 Replies). Ashura[]. 2/25/2002 11:39 (2/25/2002 11:39) 
 these are the best cultists in the respect that you can make them fearless with the rapturous standard. put them in
 squads of 40 and 50, give 4 to five cultists melta guns or plasma guns or heavy bolters , keep pushing them up
 and trust me your enemey will be in so much trouble because you can 

 a)swamp his best units or characters so that they get very few points back and i mean very few.

 b) destroy tanks , i know they have ballistic skill 2 but remember you can have 5 meltaguns in a 50 man squad
 now thats
 5 shots one of them is gonna hit.

 c) screen your important units with a land raider and 150 cultists you can easily decieve your enememy into
 thinking that your cultists and land raider are the real threat , then the 
 possessed marines , terminators , assault troops and chaos lord 
 get into hth then their in trouble.

 d) throw a greater deamon of slannesh onto the table , those 
 demagogues are good for being possessed instead of 100 pts character model. 
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       plague marine retinue and chaos lord . (0 Replies). Ashura[]. 2/25/2002 11:46 (2/25/2002 11:46) 
 this is my favorite hq choice in the game , it costs a lot but is cool to use.

 have a chaos lord with a beast of nurgle , plague sword , plasma 
 pistol and blight grenades. and give him six plague marines and 
 a rhino (nurgle infested with extra armor and smoke bombs) 

 make three of those plague marines champions and give them plague swords , bolt pistols and blight grenades,
 give the regular guys blight grenades and one of them a melta gun.
 (don't forget that mark of nurgle)

 ok so you get a fearless retinue, three of the moedels get 
 a beast of nurgle that can absorb those first few deadly hits 
 all your guys have toughness 5 and when charging will get the blight grenades bonus, the -1 to hit when you
 charge the enemy and he rolls to attack. the beasts have toughness 5 and best of all plague swords , the coolest
 close combat weapon in the game
 in some respects. 

 it costs a lot but oh boy the damage you will do. 
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       Iron Warriors firepower . (0 Replies). Ashura[]. 2/25/2002 11:52 (2/25/2002 11:52) 
 no other army allows you to take up so many heavy weapons as the iron warriors, you can have three havoc
 squads and a basilisk as your heavy support , veterans as troops , each with lascannons and a chaos lord with a
 upgraded retinue , terminators and one
 squad of khorne berzerkers. talk about a great army. very few tanks can survive against the iron warriors and
 once those are gone the troops of your opponent get blasted away. 
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       my beloved nurgle dread . (0 Replies). visigoth[]. 2/25/2002 12:01 (2/25/2002 12:01) 
 ++ Yang the Nauseating, foul beast of nurgle, he's beautiful man!
 his ccw is a mass of tentacles from some cthulhu creature, and his head is an undead dragon.
 nurgle infestation gives him a AV of 13, twin lascannons and a heavy flamer
 he won the dreadnought arena of death for me, and in a 15,000 point battle this weekend, he took all the eldar
 could throw at him (they were mad that he killed karandras and his scorpions), and at the end he was
 immobilized and shaken, but still standing.
 he's my best buddy. ++ 
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       Tzeentch... . (0 Replies). nehekhare[]. 2/25/2002 12:16 (2/25/2002 12:16) 
 well...mix firepower with the irresistable obstacle, and you got the 1000sons list. Like that bolter because it is a
 good weapon to take out lots of weak troops? Like it even more if shot as standing still while moving. core
 troops with T4, AS3+, 2 wounds and immunity to S1-4 ranged weapons, with a fearless sorcerer carrying a
 lasgun for nothing (if troops consists of 9 models)?
 Against IG, DE or exspecially eldar, 1000sons are a serious thread. And think of the enemy's face if you
 summon your changer of ways out of this troop he just charged on a 4+! 
 even the deamons have firepower! The cybots are stoically ignoring their frenzy while being possessed for only
 half the points!
 and the first cheesy rule-knack : a retinue my upgrade as many models to sorcerers as the player likes, for the
 cost given to the left-->15 points or 0 (!!!!!) points if troop consists of 9 models!!! A retinue of 7 sorcerers in
 termie-armor, with powerweapons and synch-bolters/lasguns for 76 points/model, plus one standart bearer for
 immunity to S4 weapons? 
 whatever you say against Tzeentch...he knows it before you do... 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). gerblash[]. 2/25/2002 13:08 (2/25/2002 13:08) 
 this has got to be the funniest thing ever, I play a Death Guard army whith 3 yes 3 nugle infested dreadnaughts.
 This has got to be the funnest most destructive aremy i have ever seen (be carfull though iv had these beasties
 take out my rhino and the squad it was transporting!) this would only be a taktic for those who dont care if you
 win becouse its just fun when you powerhouse units are just as dangerous to you! 
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       bump for the bump god . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/26/2002 1:00 (2/26/2002 1:00) 
 kerbump 
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       word bearers . (0 Replies). liquidviolence[]. 2/26/2002 4:53 (2/26/2002 4:53) 
 My chaos army is word bearers (i liked there transfer the best!!) and ideas what there list will be like?

 I heard the are the only chaos chapter that kept chaplains , that could be cool. 
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       The futures bright, the future is chaos. . (0 Replies). Harkan[]. 2/26/2002 5:58 (2/26/2002 5:58) 
 Well i pity those who oppose me and my mates when the new codex comes out. Every god will have an extra
 2,500pts when me and 3 mates start our new armies. I would love a 10,000pt battle against spud marines. 
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       SLAANESH! . (0 Replies). LordCommanderEidolon[]. 2/26/2002 8:26 (2/26/2002 8:26) 
 Cultists are the keyword. Take 150-200 Cultists and equip the guys with Flamers (10 Cultists = Special
 Weapon) if you know that you´re getting assaultet. (World Eaters, Blood Angels, Bugs...) Burn baby burn...
 hehe... That´s really nasty! Who care´s about the BS with a flamer... If you´re facing many vehicles or heavy
 armored troops you should give them Meltaguns. Only a few will hit, but someone WILL hit! ;) If you don´t
 know what will happen take Plasmaguns. If you equip the Cultists in this way you have to move straight towards
 the enemy! He´ll have a lot of trouble with the masses of Cultists, because they are unbreakable. (Rapturous
 Standard) Another possibility is to wait for the enemy and killing him on his way with a combo of Autocannons
 and Heavy Stubbers. 
 Don´t forget to buy the Demagogues for possesing and for the Melterbombs... 
 The Lord and his retinue with the standard should walk within the Cultists. Noise Marines (without Blastmaster)
 can lay a hail of fire while you´re advancing and CSM with CCW can prepare to assault. Veterans, Havocs and
 Noise Marines (with Blastmaster)should kill the tanks first (tank shock...), then dreads, heavily armoured troops
 and as many ordinary troops! 10 Terminators aren´t as dangerous as 30 fully equiped Space Marines... Don´t
 forget the Greater Daemon as additional "present". 

 Good luck! 
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       RE: CHAMPIONS OF NURGLE - SLAANESH - TZEENTCH - KHORNE: A BLACK CRUSADE CHAOS TACTICAL THREAD .
 (0 Replies). bornindarkness[lordweirdo@hotmail.com]. 2/26/2002 15:13 (2/26/2002 15:13) 
 Well, I use Khorne and Undivided units in my army, with a tiny bit of Nurgle, but in the future I'm planning to get
 more Nurgle units (and more Khorne as well). Here's some things I really like:
 Cultists. Great cannon fodder! Effective at blocking the opponent's LoS to several of your units.
 Possessed marines. One of the very few squads that has never let me down in any of my battles. They are well
 worth their 30 pts per model.
 Daemon Prince. My DP has a MoK, JoK, and Rune of Chaos as his standard equipment, usually with an AoK
 as well and sometimes with another upgrade like Daemon Weapon. He is really powerfull, see his modified
 statline: WS6 BS3 S8 (if using Daemon Weapon, otherwise it's 6) T6 W3 I5 Ld 10 Sv5+ (can be 3+ if
 Daemon Armour)
 Predator with lascannons and Nurgle Infestation. The lascannons don't work for me the way they should (I hope
 they work for everyone else), but still 3 lascannons (of which one is linked) and Front Armour 14 is pretty good
 for 180 pts.
 Juggernauts of Khorne. I only have one at this time but it's possible to have 5 in one pack! Unless they're
 fighting power armoured units they'll rip through the enemy with ease, but be carefull, despite their T6 they tend
 to die easily by enemy shooting (I once lost his first wound by a plasma pistol and the second by a lasgun, no
 not a typo: a lasGUN!!!).
 Berzerker squads are great in cc!!! especially in large numbers.
 Raptors, and especially bikes are great for making swift attacks against opponents that must be destroyed
 quickly like really scary tank. You can have 3 meltaguns in a bike squad, so that takes care of any vehicle if
 you're close to it!!

 I hope this helps you a little. BTW I'm glad that someone who used to be loyal to the False emperor has joined
 us! 
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       Well, if your friend "Ignatious" doesn't mind, I'll just paint this chaos star on his head... . (0 Replies). ChaosS[].
 2/26/2002 16:01 (2/26/2002 16:01) 
 Well, I play Night Lords. They are pretty fun and can do some damage if you can make it click. I can't type
 everything i've typed before, but if you look for a thread called The Forbidden Tome:Chaos Space Marine
 Tactical Thread you should find all you wanted to know about my theories...

 If you want I can Copy/Paste it back here...
 

 Soldier of Misfortune

 Chaos S 
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       Khorne or Nurgle . (1 Replies). LordOfNocturne[StarFlux@aol.com]. 2/27/2002 2:37 (2/27/2002 5:19) 
 OK i have a problem here.i dunno what to get.

 here are the units i have for both armies just a few so keep that in mind.
 

 Khorne:

 2 juggers and riders have axes of khorne(is that legal?i havent gotten the codex yet cause im short on money)

 2 boxed sets of berserkers

 2 rhinos

 Nurgle:

 6 termies.assorted weapons.motsly combined with melta or flamer.one autocannon.

 3 nurgle marine boxed sets

 dreadnought
 
 

 i have a chaos lord but i dunno who it is going to.

 i love Khorne models and thier blood thirst and ideas and everything.BUT even with cover your still gonna get
 your ass shoot off and owned by termies even with choppas.
 

 I really like nurgle too.i am converting a termie lord(abbadon) for them and giving him a plague sword and mark
 of nurgle.(i think that gives him 5 or 6 thoughness i dont know)also i love the plague marines in CC.they
 own.even against normal squads.

 i am tryin to find out a few other things too. Like for expamplewhat spiky bits are and what they do.can juggers
 receive axes of khorne.what do people use for possesed models and are they really that good? these are some
 things i have been wondering and any insites would be thankfully rewarded.
 
 

 -BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

 -Let the infestation BEGIN 
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       RE: Khorne or Nurgle . (0 Replies). ChaoticVeteran[]. 2/27/2002 5:19 (2/27/2002 5:19) 
 Both gods are good, but i say stick to the Blood God! :D The KB are very good in CC and their special rules
 are also cool. I think that their IA is in WD263. 

 Nurgle is alittle more versatile but also good to play. Their rules were publushed in WD265, i think but not too
 sure. 
 With nurgle youll have to convert alot cos the old models for plague marines arent too good. The new ones for
 KB are alot better IMO. But the conversion bits are up to u. 
 

 >> 
 >> i love Khorne models and thier blood thirst and ideas and everything.BUT even with cover your still gonna
 get your ass shoot off and owned by termies even with choppas.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> I really like nurgle too.i am converting a termie lord(abbadon) for them and giving him a plague sword and
 mark of nurgle.(i think that gives him 5 or 6 thoughness i dont know)also i love the plague marines in CC.they
 own.even against normal squads.
 >> 
 >> i am tryin to find out a few other things too. Like for expamplewhat spiky bits are and what they do.can
 juggers receive axes of khorne.what do people use for possesed models and are they really that good? these
 are some things i have been wondering and any insites would be thankfully rewarded.
 >> 
 

 Jeggers can be givern as a gift to a character for 50pts (the rider gets +2T and +2A), or you can have the
 juggers as a separate squad, having 1-5 models in it. Spiky bits let you re-roll one failed To Hit dice in CC. And
 possessed are REAL good! never let me down.

 Cheers
 ChaosVeteran
 >> 
 >> -BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
 >> 
 >> -Let the infestation BEGIN 
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