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Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread GW-harper. [14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread hannes (10/3/2001 9:29). [14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread meteorstruck (11/1/2001 21:11). [14] RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread aurion (11/19/2001 9:48). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread krootfleet (12/28/2001 3:02). [14] Tau vs Space Marines Terminatorarmour (10/4/2001 1:28). [14] RE: Tau vs Space Marines LordLothar (10/13/2001 19:39). [14] RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines DeathFist (10/18/2001 5:43). [14] RE: RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines The Wraith (10/19/2001 9:29). [14] Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination Korvasha (10/25/2001 21:19). [14] RE: Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination kesteral (12/30/2001 9:03). [14] RE: Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination ChazDaTaco (1/5/2002 8:33). [14] RE: RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines krootfleet (12/28/2001 3:05). [14] is anyone planing on doing a tau farsight army? feen (10/5/2001 7:59). [14] RE: is anyone planing on doing a tau farsight army? Siccorro (12/30/2001 5:00). [14] nice tips blurobo (2/5/2002 19:32). [14] I have a some tactics questions. GodIncarnate (10/6/2001 2:52). [14] RE: I have a some tactics questions. asmodan (10/18/2001 10:29). [14] RE: RE: I have a some tactics questions. jamescampbell (11/1/2001 7:27). [14] Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) valk (11/4/2001 4:22). [14] RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) trashmonk (11/8/2001 13:03). [14] RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) Occisor (12/6/2001 12:49). [14] RE: RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) makobyte (12/22/2001 14:39). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) Nodrog (12/30/2001 6:49). [14] RE: RE: RE: I have a some tactics questions. Romwe (1/5/2002 9:38). [14] Tau and Eldar han (10/6/2001 4:15). [14] RE: Tau and Eldar Skau (11/23/2001 21:40). [14] RE: RE: Tau and Eldar vorogue (12/18/2001 23:42). [14] Eldar: a misterious force zephyrmage (12/28/2001 4:45). [14] To those who think the Tau suck... ghost271 (10/6/2001 17:04). [14] RE: To those who think the Tau suck... kesteral (12/30/2001 11:23). [14] Any Suggestions for this Army List? valk (11/6/2001 3:11). [14] RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? Rlyehable (11/6/2001 10:58). [14] RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? FremenofArrakis (12/4/2001 15:48). [14] RE: RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? Bologs (12/27/2001 11:50). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? CougarInExile (12/30/2001 21:53). [14] My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. Vowel (11/25/2001 14:15). [14] RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. Rlyehable (11/26/2001 7:09). [14] RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. Vowel (12/3/2001 17:44). [14] RE: RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. Bologs (12/13/2001 13:50). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. Siccorro (12/30/2001 5:09). [14] So, I had a grot unit kill a Bloodthirster! PuKtHeMad (2/5/2002 19:58). [14] Drones and chrisis suits.... shado (11/28/2001 13:10). [14] RE: Drones and chrisis suits.... MrDana (12/28/2001 23:09). [14] RE: RE: Drones and chrisis suits.... CougarInExile (12/30/2001 22:11). [14] O'Shovah HeLLRaiSR (11/29/2001 3:52). [14] RE: O'Shovah ArtOfWar (11/29/2001 23:34). [14] RE: RE: O'Shovah Siccorro (12/30/2001 5:19). [14] Line of Sight scalpel (12/2/2001 16:53). [14] RE: Line of Sight rlyehable (12/4/2001 6:55). [14] Drones are diffrent.... Vowel (12/4/2001 7:25). [14] RE: Drones are diffrent.... von straub (12/5/2001 13:37). [14] Well..... Vowel (12/11/2001 16:37). [14] RE: Well..... CougarInExile (12/30/2001 22:30). [14] Burst Cannon vs Plasma Rifle gold (12/6/2001 22:38). [14] Rapid fire w/Plasma Rifle MrDana (12/28/2001 23:34). [14] !!Barracudas and Mantas!! Bologs (12/12/2001 15:32). [14] RE: !!Barracudas and Mantas!! CougarInExile (12/30/2001 22:52). [14] Tau Tactics? DrAwer (12/12/2001 16:36). [14] RE: Tau Tactics? MrDana (12/29/2001 0:04). [14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread - KROOT RULES Tfarcraw (12/13/2001 1:20). [14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread - KROOT RULES LCMonaghan (12/13/2001 3:41). [14] RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread - KROOT RULES von straub (12/13/2001 11:46). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies Rlyehable (12/13/2001 12:10). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies GhostXV (12/13/2001 14:43). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies CougarInExile (12/30/2001 23:04). [14] !!!!Read this Tau!!!! Bologs (12/15/2001 12:32). [14] RE: !!!!Read this Tau!!!! MrDana (12/29/2001 0:29). [14] EMP and Photon Grenades Bologs (12/16/2001 6:35). [14] RE: EMP and Photon Grenades von straub (12/16/2001 15:29). [14] RE: RE: EMP and Photon Grenades ChazDaTaco (12/16/2001 16:07). [14] RE: RE: RE: EMP and Photon Grenades von straub (12/16/2001 19:09). [14] I must dissagree Vowel (12/28/2001 21:16). [14] The Tau colour scheme Bologs (12/16/2001 6:45). [14] Mine are Pink......(NmT) Vowel (12/28/2001 21:22). [14] 2 Pathfinder Units and Devilfish Rlyehable (12/17/2001 14:12). [14] RE: 2 Pathfinder Units and Devilfish enkidu (12/23/2001 5:56). [14] RE: Commander and Drones -- Unit? Rlyehable (12/19/2001 7:47). [14] RE: RE: Commander and Drones -- Unit? enkidu (12/23/2001 5:52). [14] Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret ChazDaTaco (12/20/2001 15:23). [14] RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret von straub (12/21/2001 15:08). [14] RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret ChazDaTaco (12/22/2001 6:15). [14] RE: RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret von straub (12/22/2001 14:52). [14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret ChazDaTaco (12/23/2001 5:46). [14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread GoTau (12/21/2001 23:14). [14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread Jordanskater (12/22/2001 22:12). [14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread enkidu (12/23/2001 5:41). [14] RE: RE: Septs, Cadres Rlyehable (12/27/2001 11:59). [14] Me Again... ChazDaTaco (12/22/2001 16:47). [14] RE: Me Again... von straub (12/23/2001 13:04). [14] RE: RE: Me Again... ChazDaTaco (12/23/2001 17:01). [14] RE: RE: RE: Me Again... von straub (12/24/2001 13:36). [14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread Jordanskater (12/23/2001 7:04). [14] Fluff Check... ChazDaTaco (12/23/2001 18:26). [14] RE: Fluff Check... Rlyehable (12/27/2001 12:08). [14] RE: RE: Fluff Check... ChazDaTaco (12/27/2001 15:32). [14] 2 the optimal number of Broadsides in a Unit? Rlyehable (12/28/2001 10:46). [14] RE: 2 the optimal number of Broadsides in a Unit? ChazDaTaco (12/28/2001 18:38). [14] RE: RE: 2 the optimal number of Broadsides in a Unit? Rlyehable (12/30/2001 20:40). [14] RE: 2 the optimal number of Broadsides in a Unit? merlonc (12/30/2001 23:22). [14] 2400 point O'Shovah List ChazDaTaco (12/28/2001 19:54). [14] Lots of words... SMCommander (12/30/2001 5:47). [14] RE: Lots of words... von straub (12/30/2001 10:46). [14] RE: RE: Lots of words... Bologs (12/31/2001 12:29). [14] New Kroot Bologs (1/18/2002 17:05). [14] Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread .
(973 Replies). GW-harper[]. 10/3/2001 7:45 (2/5/2002 19:58) Post you questions,
tactics, scenarios for the Tau here!
[14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics
Thread . (13 Replies). hannes[]. 10/3/2001 9:29 (12/28/2001 3:02) Hi!I
have some questions.Two of my friends wants to chalenge me and they are
very confident.They both collect Imperial gaurd and
I would be glad if you answered these questions.
HANNES
[14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (3 Replies). meteorstruck[].
11/1/2001 21:11 (12/28/2001 3:02) >> Hi!I have some questions.Two of my
friends wants to chalenge me and they are very confident.They both collect
Imperial gaurd and
A sentinle isn't all that good. A tau fire warrior
squad shoots 30" at strength 5 ap 5 rapid fire! With 12 fire warriors,
you can annilate any small imperial guard army! All you need now it a kroot
squad lead by a kroot shaper and commander O'shava! That should be about
$92.00 canadian without tax.
[14] RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (2 Replies).
aurion[]. 11/19/2001 9:48 (12/28/2001 3:02) >> A sentinle isn't all that
good. A tau fire warrior squad shoots 30" at strength 5 ap 5 rapid fire!
With 12 fire warriors, you can annilate any small imperial guard army!
All you need now it a kroot squad lead by a kroot shaper and commander
O'shava! That should be about $92.00 canadian without tax.
Except that you can't have O'shova and Kroot in the same army (or ethereals or drone squads for that matter). So I would recommend that you don't waste the money on him if you want any of the above. He is the only model in the Tau army with a power weapon, though, so you might want to build an army around him. Actually he's a monstrous creature but that's close to the same as wielding a power weapon (better I think). Aurion Shidhe
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (0 Replies).
krootfleet[]. 12/28/2001 3:02 (12/28/2001 3:02) the only thing about oshovah
is the cumpolsory shield generator
[14] Tau vs Space Marines
. (22 Replies). Terminatorarmour[jdemogue@sprint.ca]. 10/4/2001 1:28 (1/5/2002
8:33) >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here!
How good are the Tau against the space marine
chapters of the Crimson Fists, Imprial Fists, etc.
[14] RE: Tau vs Space Marines . (14 Replies). LordLothar[]. 10/13/2001
19:39 (1/5/2002 8:33) >> >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for
the Tau here!
Battles between the Tau an any space marine chapter
would be really kewl. I'm not that experienced with the Crimson an Imperial
Fists chapters , but i think it would totally depend one what each player
had in their army lists. Compared to other armies, the space marines would
stand a better chance against the Tau, but that doesn't mean they'll win.
With the right tactics an units, the Tau could obliterate the Imperial
might.
[14] RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines . (13 Replies). DeathFist[]. 10/18/2001 5:43 (1/5/2002 8:33) If the Tau player wanted to be really cheesy, he could take 3x3 crisis teams with 2 plasma rifles and a multi tracker each... thats 36 S7 AP2 shots at BS3 each round. When these guys have shot they've wiped out half the vanilla army together with the fire warriors and Railguns. BTW I'd never do such a cheesy thing. Feel da heat. For the Greater Fun ~fella
[14] RE: RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines . (10 Replies). The Wraith[]. 10/19/2001
9:29 (1/5/2002 8:33) >> If the Tau player wanted to be really cheesy, he
could take 3x3 crisis teams with 2 plasma rifles and a multi tracker each...
thats 36 S7 AP2 shots at BS3 each round. When these guys have shot they've
wiped out half the vanilla army together with the fire warriors and Railguns.
BTW I'd never do such a cheesy thing. Feel da heat.
You cannot take two plasma rifles unless you twin
link them. It will still be a good marine killer though.
[14] Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination . (9 Replies). Korvasha[blackdragonTT@hotmail.com]. 10/25/2001 21:19 (1/5/2002 8:33) You CAN take 2 plasma guns without the twin link. Just like you can take 1 plasma and 1 flamer. It'll cost you 16pts per Plasma. Basically 2 hard points go to the plasma (one each) and 1 goes to a multi-tracker. Well let me add this, I just played a 1000pt battle between my tau (as represented by Dark Eldar Models) against my little bro's Space wolf army. (we actually played 1 1/2 battles). On the first spur of the moment battle we played meat grinder with him as the attacker. Basically our table was a card table with only 2 3/4 foot width/length and as soon as the spacewolves get into close combat the game is over for the tau. The kroot are practically useless against them. Due mainly to the armor saves and lack of power weapon style attacks. We had to clean that up short and decided on using 2, 2 3/4 ft tables for our next battle. Same mission and everything playing length wise. His army was mainly fast attack with a russ tank (proving to be his best choice) He got the first turn. His jetpacking bloodclaws and motorcycle bloodclaws came tearing across the field (staying behind as much cover as possible) and his turn ended with him about 1/2 of the way to me. My turn began. My forces were comprised of 1 Shas'o with 2 plasma guns/multi-tracker, 2 squads of 10 basic fire troops. 2 XV8's with 2plasma/multi-tracker. 2 Hammerhead Battletanks and 3 XV88's with Twin-rail and twin-plasma /multi-tracker. The reason I chose to go with so much heavy firepower was due to some sampling in the first game. I found that my fire troops would kill on average 1-2 regular space marines a turn. Which means that if I relied on them for all the death dealing, it would take 4 turns of concentrated fire just to get rid of his blood claws. however, 3 XV8's had the potential for 6 total space marine kills. averaging 2-3. The one thing you MUST REMEMBER with the Tau is their BS is absolute CRAP when it comes to firing weapons. DESPITE ALL their TECHNOLOGY...they still shoot as bad as my Tyranids....(I mean c'mon, even the fractious Dark Eldar shoot better than them) anyway, so even if 3x3 XV8's with 2 plasma/multi-tracker is 18 space marine killing shots remember. HALF of those shots will hit, (9) 5/6th of them will would wound (7.5) and if they're in average cover only 5 will fail the cover throw. So believe me, its not the 18 u would think. Though 5 spacemarines is alright killing, consider that those 3x3 XV8's costed you 3*3=9models 9*30=270model pts + 9*2=18plasma 18*16=288plasma cost + 9*5=45Multi-trackers GRAND TOTAL=270+288+45= 603pts. MORE than HALF your army is going to be spent
killing a mathematical average of 5 spacemarines (consider them to be standard
marines) 17*5=85 pts per turn. Heaven help you if he's got some guys with
Las Cannons because you plasma guns reach is ONLY 24" Theirs is somewhere
over 48" (not sure exactly). So if take into account that ALL the XV8's
in the game aghainst my brothers army were out of range the entire battle
and did NOT score ONE SINGLE kill. All the killing was done by my hammerheads
and XV88's at a range of about 30". The Fire squads helped with a few lucky
kills but mainly soaked up Leman Russ fire. So when the Tyranids face the
Tau (which have quite slow rates of fire) heaven help the world. Those
hormagaunts are going to tear them up somethin' fierce.
[14] RE: Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination . (0 Replies).
kesteral[]. 12/30/2001 9:03 (12/30/2001 9:03) i know its straying from
the main subject, but tau vs nids is a complete blood bath.. railguns are
able to kill warriors i 1 shot, and hive tyrants in a few turns, which
leaves the rest of your army to shoot the little bugs... unfortunately
nids have a tendancy to feild lots and lots and lots and lots of bugs,
so you wont be able 2 stop them from getting into combat, so the few gaunts
and the odd warrior are gonna tear up the tau, with the only saving grace,
being O'Shava, and kroot assaulting them when the gaunts are stuck in combat...
the piles of dead mass up... trust me..
[14] RE: Tau vs. Space Marines Battle Report / explaination . (0 Replies). ChazDaTaco[motty_brown@hotmail.com]. 1/5/2002 8:33 (1/5/2002 8:33) >> You CAN take 2 plasma guns without the twin link. Just like you can take 1 plasma and 1 flamer. It'll cost you 16pts per Plasma. Basically 2 hard points go to the plasma (one each) and 1 goes to a multi-tracker. You CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT, with the emphasis on the NOT, take two the same weapons (two plasma rifles, or two fusion blasters, etc.) on one crisis suit model WITHOUT Twin-Linking them, the codex is very clear on this. The actual line reads: "It is possible to mount the same weapon system (not if it is a flamer though) on two hard points instead of one. The two weapons WILL then fire like a SINGLE twin-linked weapon. It is not possible to mount the same weapon on three hard points." What this says, basically, is if you wanna take the same weapon, it WILL, not MAY, but WILL HAVE to be twin-linked. There is no choice in the matter. Also, you can't take two twin-linked weapons, and then another weapon of the same kind, which again would give you two weapons to fire with. It's clear from their approach that GW did not intend Crisis suits to be able to fire two identical weapons in one turn. -Chaz Out
[14] RE: RE: RE: Tau vs Space Marines . (0 Replies). krootfleet[]. 12/28/2001
3:05 (12/28/2001 3:05) Tau battlesuit plasma rifles are not S7, they are
S6. also, multitracker is pointless waste of a hardpoint and points because
you have 2 of the same weapon. multi tracker lets you use 2 different weapons.
replace it with a drone controller!
[14] is anyone planing on doing a tau farsight army? . (9 Replies). feen[]. 10/5/2001 7:59 (2/5/2002 19:32) is anyone planing on doing a tau farsight army? i am painting up a small one. that farsight guy. O'Dodah (i can't remeber his
name)
may add stelth suits and some transports later..maybe
a hammer head
[14] RE: is anyone planing on doing a tau farsight army? . (1 Replies).
Siccorro[siccorro@yahoo.com]. 12/30/2001 5:00 (2/5/2002 19:32) >> is anyone
planing on doing a tau farsight army?
I have a 1500 pt O'shava army and currently I
dont use pathfinders. 2 key things i worked on is 1 making sure all my
battle suits had ork fighter upgrades as there is a better chance for the
enemy to get close due to deployment limitations. the upgrade is a waste
on normal tau fire warriors as their (S) attribute is incredibly low. Stealth
teams and a hammerhead with a railgun is a must. I use 3 FW teams of only
8 FW's this allows me to allocate more pts to my other units and allows
me to spread my infantry coverage a bit. My FW teams are basically roadblocks
to allow my suits and hammerhead better firing angles.
[14] nice tips . (0 Replies). blurobo[]. 2/5/2002 19:32 (2/5/2002 19:32)
i will take them into consideration
[14] I have a some tactics questions. . (16 Replies). GodIncarnate[]. 10/6/2001 2:52 (1/5/2002 9:38) >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here! I was wonder what would be a good way to counter
the assualt squads of say space marines, orks, and eldar. All 3 of my friends
are just droolin at the prospect. Also, any basic tactics I should know
of?
[14] RE: I have a some tactics questions. . (7 Replies). asmodan[]. 10/18/2001
10:29 (1/5/2002 9:38) >> >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for
the Tau here!
stealth suits before they attack.
That's my 2 pence on this subject.
[14] RE: RE: I have a some tactics questions. . (6 Replies). jamescampbell[].
11/1/2001 7:27 (1/5/2002 9:38) >> >> >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios
for the Tau here!
I have a query about getting out of and back into
the woods - Would this require a difficult terrain test?
[14] Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) . (4 Replies). valk[]. 11/4/2001 4:22 (12/30/2001
6:49) No Text
[14] RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) . (3 Replies). trashmonk[]. 11/8/2001
13:03 (12/30/2001 6:49) No it doesn't, they can walk or jump. Read andy
chambers online chat.
[14] RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) . (2 Replies). Occisor[]. 12/6/2001 12:49 (12/30/2001 6:49) >> No it doesn't, they can walk or jump. Read andy chambers online chat. Yes but if you make a jump move and land on difficult
terrain they have to take a difficult terrain landing test. and thats a
little risky
[14] RE: RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) . (1 Replies). makobyte[djwilson2@home.com].
12/22/2001 14:39 (12/30/2001 6:49) >> >> No it doesn't, they can walk or
jump. Read andy chambers online chat.
Can you jump out but then walk back in?
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Yep, it would. (N/T) (NT) . (0 Replies). Nodrog[].
12/30/2001 6:49 (12/30/2001 6:49) >> >> >> No it doesn't, they can walk
or jump. Read andy chambers online chat.
You would still take the test for jumping out,
but you cant any way (It says it in the rules regarding jet packs).
[14] RE: RE: RE: I have a some tactics questions. . (0 Replies). Romwe[].
1/5/2002 9:38 (1/5/2002 9:38) >> >> >> >> Post you questions, tactics,
scenarios for the Tau here!
You can jump out of the woods with no difficult
terrain test. However, moving back into the woods requires a jump during
the assault phase. This means you are subject to being a jump pack landing
in difficult terrain. Don't roll any 1's.
[14] Tau and Eldar . (13 Replies). han[chen_nz@xtra.co.nz]. 10/6/2001 4:15 (12/28/2001 4:45) >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here! I just want to know, could you ally Eldar with
the Tau?
[14] RE: Tau and Eldar . (2 Replies). Skau[]. 11/23/2001 21:40 (12/28/2001
4:45) >> >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here!
I ally my Tau with my friend's Eldar usually just because we don't have enough points to fight a 2500pt. Tyranid army, and even if we did we'd die painfully and instantly and such. So we fight together and die painfully but we put up a good fight. If you'll humor me, I'll quote the codex: "I have followed the myriad potential futures
of the Tau with great interest. Though barely even striplings compared
to us, I feel a strange protectiveness towards them. In time I believe
they will exceed even our greatest feats and master the darkness within
their soulds."
Sounds good to me. Then again there's a page of Kroot mauling Eldar troops. So it's kind of mixed. :) ~Skau
[14] RE: RE: Tau and Eldar . (1 Replies). vorogue[]. 12/18/2001 23:42 (12/28/2001
4:45) >> Then again there's a page of Kroot mauling Eldar troops. So it's
kind of mixed. :)
Aw yes, but that is the kroot and the kroot r
just mercs helping the tau or doing as they please in there spare time.
[14] Eldar: a misterious force . (0 Replies). zephyrmage[warped_weasel@hotmail.com].
12/28/2001 4:45 (12/28/2001 4:45) also the eldar have been known to help
the imperium from time to time, they have ulterior motives. i don't see
why they wouldn't want to stop an ork or tyranid invasion from reaching
a craft world.
[14] To those who think the Tau suck... . (6 Replies). ghost271[]. 10/6/2001 17:04 (12/30/2001 11:23) >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here! Well first off. I do recall people saying that DE sucked when they first came out. I have a friend with a DE army and he kicks ass with it. He is VERY hard to beat. So hard in fact that I have had to build my army around destroying his. I can now hold my own and actually beat him now against his Tactics. Thats what it comes down to folks. Tactics. There is no reason why your crisis suits should ever be caught in HtH. They have superior ranged weapons that should keep you at bay from any HtH enemy. They can move a total of 12" a turn for f*** sake. If they get engaged, it was a matter of poor planning on your part. Also, look at sheild drones. You take 6 of those
beauties with your crisis unit, and those 4+ invulnerable saves will have
your opponent yelling, "CHEESE !". It is going to take Tau players a little
while to adjust their playing styles to differant armies, but in time,
we will be a formidable foe. Each ass kicking we get makes us harder to
beat the next time. In Martial Arts we call it conditioning. After a month
of getting the sh*t kicked out of me 3 days a week by guys 2-3 times my
size; pain and endurance was no longer an issue. I just smile at "tough
guys" on the street now cause they can't do anything to me that hasn't
been done by guys bigger than them already. So to all those players who
gloat now over kicking the Tau in combat. "Give me a month and we'll see
who's smiling then."
[14] RE: To those who think the Tau suck... . (0 Replies). kesteral[].
12/30/2001 11:23 (12/30/2001 11:23) >> >> Post you questions, tactics,
scenarios for the Tau here!
AMEN
[14] Any Suggestions
for this Army List? . (8 Replies). valk[]. 11/6/2001 3:11 (12/30/2001 21:53)
1500 ME'SOHJA SEPT TAU ARMY
***COMMAND (160)
***CORE (430) 590
***ELITE (303) 893
***FAST ATTACK (306) 1199
***HEAVY SUPPORT (300) 1499
ARMY TOTAL 1499 Basic Tactics as you may guess, are to form a pretty substantial battleline with the 39 fire warriors. I've tried to bolster the staying power of the front line by using an ethereal and Shas'uis. Two units have carbines simply if a unit needs to do some moving, I'll choose the carbine squads. Pathfinders will either be picking out dangerous vehichles, or in the case of non-line-of-sight vehichles (Whirlwinds come to mind...) moving into Close Combat to use those EMP grenades. The Gun Drone squad will most probably be used to rove about the battlines, adding extra shots at any squads getting too close for comfort. Stealth suits are most probably going to harass heavy weapons teams that have gotten too much of a commanding view. Other than that, they'll just act much like the gun drones. Crisis Team will most probably single out any
particularly elite squads and throws a ton of missiles at them. With assistance
from the commander, they should do ok at this task from round 1. Missiles
have a nice range and it's just a matter of getting that all important
line of sight. Because Crisis suits don't shoot too straight, I thought
twin link was better for the points than missile/plasma combo.
[14] RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? . (4 Replies). Rlyehable[]. 11/6/2001 10:58 (12/30/2001 21:53) Bond, bond, bond, bond. It is almost a requirement for Tau. Fire Warriors need the Photon Grenades. They still die, but get a chance to strike back. Did I mention that you need to bond your teams? Without Kroot, you will need to keep one FW team back to protect your Broadsides. They are very vulnerable to deep strike. They take a while to die, but while stuck in HtH, they cannot use thier big weapons. Bond.
[14] RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? . (2 Replies). FremenofArrakis[]. 12/4/2001 15:48 (12/30/2001 21:53) First off...ditch the Kroot. ditch the Broadside. Get some responsiveness in your Tau army, you will need it. i would get a Tau army somewhere along these lines: HQ
Elites-Crisis Battlesuit Team- t/l Missile pod and target lock, and hardwired drone control w/ 2 shield drones;plasma rifle, burst gun, and multi-tracker; plasma rifle, burst gun, and multi-tracker Elites-Crisis Battlesuit Team- t/l Missile pod and target lock, and hardwired drone control w/ 2 shield drones;plasma rifle, burst gun, and multi-tracker; plasma rifle, burst gun, and multi-tracker Troop
Troop
Troop
Troop
Heavy Support
Heavy Support
[14] RE: RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? . (1 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/27/2001 11:50 (12/30/2001 21:53) Are you stupid!! What is the popint of just having 2 Pulse Carbines
in a squad of 12 Fire Warriors when up to half can have Pulse Carbines.
If you only have 2 it greatly reduces the chances of the opposing squad
Also the squad can't move and fire because the Carbines are Heavy 1. What's the point of having just 2. How about 4 Fire Warrior squads: 12 with Rifles, 12 with Rifles, 6 with Rifles and 6 with Carbines, 6 with Rifles and 6 with Carbines. Bologs "FoR tHe GrEaTeR gOoD"
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Any Suggestions for this Army List? . (0 Replies).
CougarInExile[]. 12/30/2001 21:53 (12/30/2001 21:53) >> Are you stupid!!
Pulse carbines are assault, not heavy weapons.
[14] My Shas'O Just killed
a Carnifix in HtH. . (5 Replies). Vowel[]. 11/25/2001 14:15 (2/5/2002 19:58)
I shot em, reducing it to 1 wound then took it out in HtH with the commander
and bodyguard.
[14] RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. . (3 Replies). Rlyehable[]. 11/26/2001 7:09 (12/30/2001 5:09) >> I shot em, reducing it to 1 wound then took it out in HtH with the commander and bodyguard. Good! Do it again!
[14] RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. . (2 Replies). Vowel[].
12/3/2001 17:44 (12/30/2001 5:09) I jus' did it again!
[14] RE: RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. . (1 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/13/2001 13:50 (12/30/2001 5:09) >> I jus' did it again! Kill them all for !The Greater Good! Reply
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: My Shas'O Just killed a Carnifix in HtH. . (0 Replies).
Siccorro[siccorro@yahoo.com]. 12/30/2001 5:09 (12/30/2001 5:09) >> >> I
jus' did it again!
Nah funny is a Tyranid player saying you got nothing
in hth and killing Old One Eye and a Carnifex with O'Shava in the game
that followed =)
[14] So, I had a grot unit kill a Bloodthirster! . (0 Replies). PuKtHeMad[].
2/5/2002 19:58 (2/5/2002 19:58) Even blind squirells find nuts now and
again!
[14] Drones and chrisis suits.... . (5 Replies). shado[]. 11/28/2001 13:10 (12/30/2001 22:11) So, Since chrisis and stealth suits count as armor not vehicles, can they be screaned by other troops? Example: Kroot in front with chrisis suits behind them, the enemy can't shoot at the chrisis suits, cus they are covered by the kroot. Now my real question. can drone squads do this for chrisis suits? It would be really cool if they can. Drones pinn the people in front, and the chrisis suits unload. Hehe. Just a thought. shado
[14] RE: Drones and chrisis suits.... . (1 Replies). MrDana[]. 12/28/2001
23:09 (12/30/2001 22:11) >> So, Since chrisis and stealth suits count as
armor not vehicles, can they be screaned by other troops? Example: Kroot
in front with chrisis suits behind them, the enemy can't shoot at the chrisis
suits, cus they are covered by the kroot.
I recently played a game using the Tau against the manager of our local Games Workshop store. During the battle it was declared that fire warriors cannot screen a battlesuit as the 'suit is more than double the size of a fire warrior. (Stealth suits are obviously an exception.) Whilst I'm here, I've gotta tell someone about
another battle I played in at the shop. My fire warriors were assaulted
by a squad of assault marines : AND I WON THE COMBAT!!! I wiped them out
completely! Go Tau! Go Tau! Go Tau!
Thanx, MrDana
[14] RE: RE: Drones and chrisis suits.... . (0 Replies). CougarInExile[].
12/30/2001 22:11 (12/30/2001 22:11) >> >> So, Since chrisis and stealth
suits count as armor not vehicles, can they be screaned by other troops?
Example: Kroot in front with chrisis suits behind them, the enemy can't
shoot at the chrisis suits, cus they are covered by the kroot.
It's a close call, but my XV8's are less than
twice as tall as a Fire Warrior...
[14] O'Shovah . (4 Replies). HeLLRaiSR[HeLLRaiSR44@Hotmail.com]. 11/29/2001 3:52 (12/30/2001 5:19) Hey ppl, i got an opinion question that goes like this; What do you think of O'Shovah, where do you use it on the battle field , do you take the upgrade for you're fire warrior team and do you use it all the time?! I know everybody has it's own opinion about O'Shovah but i stil wanna hear it, because maybe i'l buy him... Thnx in advance,
[14] RE: O'Shovah . (1 Replies). ArtOfWar[fearfac99@hotmail.com]. 11/29/2001 23:34 (12/30/2001 5:19) In my experience, it's better not to play him. But here's what I've noticed. DON'T put Ork Fighter on Fire Warriors. Way too expensive, and for little to no return. Only put it on your suits. If you take him, take a Hammerhead and a Broadside
team, and put lots of points into them. Beef them up and give them plenty
of defense. For instance, give Broadsides Smart Missle Systems and Shield
Generators or Shield Drones. And give the Hammerhead at least a Multi-tracker
and Decoy Launchers if not more. The weapons you equip are a matter of
personal opinion. If you're expecting lots of infantry, maybe try an Ion
Cannon and Burst Cannons.
I've heard from veteran players in the area that
you're better off taking an Ethereal in your army (which O'Shovah can't).
Personally, I'd only use Aun'Shi. He's a really good character, and he's
an Ethereal with an Armor Save. Not the best save ever, but better than
none at all.
[14] RE: RE: O'Shovah . (0 Replies). Siccorro[siccorro@yahoo.com]. 12/30/2001
5:19 (12/30/2001 5:19) >> In my experience, it's better not to play him.
But here's what I've noticed.
If you make an O'Shovah army make sure he's got
good support and place him close to the front line. He makes a good offensive
unit when your enemy gets close and even the plasma rifle on him can help
take pressure off of your FW teams. I'd drop the pathfinders and DF in
favor of more crisis or stealth suits and possibly better HW systems on
the squad leaders. And remember that O'Shovah had a 4+ invulnerable save
and is a monsterous creature so he's quite ideal for taking on dreadnoughts
and carnifex's that get too close provided you didnt just notice that your
broadsides or hammerhead havent shot yet. In a Farsight army a railgun
on a hammerhead is a necessity but dont forget they can still use a solid
shot if needed.
[14] Line of Sight . (6 Replies). scalpel[gwwh@btopenworld.com]. 12/2/2001 16:53 (12/30/2001 22:30) >> Post you questions, tactics, scenarios for the Tau here! Just got back from the WPS 40K GT, great two days everyone had. However, there were a few Tau armies there, and being all fantical 40K player we all got talking, and few questions came up. Now these are not diputes or arguments, and all Tau games were played in a nice manor, so this isn't for "but he told me" okay. So he it is :- I just want to point out that for the follwoing questions, I mean two models standing, one directly behind the other. I know you can target throough gaps, and also I am fulley aware of "twice the models height" rule, but I want to ask for clarification. Q1. Do Drones block LOS (Line of Sight) for Fire Warriors and Kroot. Q2. Do Fire Warriors or Kroot block LOS for Crisis Suits ? Q3. Do Drones block LOS Crisis suits ? Would really like a GW answer on this as I am half wat through building my Tau army, and before I finsh it It would be nice to get a clarification. Regards Scalpel
[14] RE: Line of Sight . (4 Replies). rlyehable[]. 12/4/2001 6:55 (12/30/2001
22:30) >> Q1. Do Drones block LOS (Line of Sight) for Fire Warriors and
Kroot.
No. They are not 1/2 as tall as either.
>> Q2. Do Fire Warriors or Kroot block LOS for
Crisis Suits ?
Yes. They are 1/2 as tall as the crisis suits.
>> Q3. Do Drones block LOS Crisis suits ?
No. They are not 1/2 as tall as the crisis suits.
>> Would really like a GW answer on this as I
am half wat through building my Tau army, and before I finsh it It would
be nice to get a clarification.
I am not GW, but the answers would seem to be
obvious.
[14] Drones are diffrent.... . (3 Replies). Vowel[]. 12/4/2001 7:25 (12/30/2001 22:30) Drones have to be shot over other tau behind them. they don't block loS, but they must be shot at
if the unit is in the way.
[14] RE: Drones are diffrent.... . (2 Replies). von straub[]. 12/5/2001
13:37 (12/30/2001 22:30) >> Drones have to be shot over other tau behind
them.
Not exactly...
VS
[14] Well..... . (1 Replies). Vowel[]. 12/11/2001 16:37 (12/30/2001 22:30) Drones are not even as tall as a snotling on the ground, but they hover, and the cover half of most of my tau. I'll try and be more clear, if a drones in the
way you can not see more than half a tau thru it.
[14] RE: Well..... . (0 Replies). CougarInExile[]. 12/30/2001 22:30 (12/30/2001
22:30) >> Drones are not even as tall as a snotling on the ground, but
they hover, and the cover half of most of my tau.
I think the drones are meant to be thought of
as constantly changing altitude etc and otherwise getting in the way of
targeting troops behind them. In that case you'd count their "height" as
including the flying base.
[14] Burst Cannon vs
Plasma Rifle . (4 Replies). gold[]. 12/6/2001 22:38 (12/28/2001 23:34)
hey all,
[14] Rapid fire w/Plasma Rifle . (0 Replies). MrDana[]. 12/28/2001 23:34 (12/28/2001 23:34) >> ...With the Burst Cannon, you get 3 shots S5 AP5 along with whatever else you're using via multitrackers and whatnot(even if you move), where if you are using the Plasma Rifle, if you move(and Crisis Suits are *always* moving, mind you!), you only get one shot S6 AP2, and a 12" range because of movement. Actually the codex says that Crisis suits count as being stationary when using rapid fire weapons. So, with a Plasma Rifle, you get 1 shot at 24", or two at 12". Hope that helps, MrDana
[14] !!Barracudas and Mantas!! . (2 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/12/2001 15:32 (12/30/2001 22:52) Does any body know if Tau Barracudas or Mantas are coming out and what are the stats?? All info needed!!!
[14] RE: !!Barracudas and Mantas!! . (0 Replies). CougarInExile[]. 12/30/2001
22:52 (12/30/2001 22:52) >> Does any body know if Tau Barracudas or Mantas
are coming out and what are the stats??
Manta Missile Destroyers will be released for
WH40K shortly after the Imperator Titans are, at a cost of £1,000
a model :P
[14] Tau Tactics? . (1 Replies). DrAwer[]. 12/12/2001 16:36 (12/29/2001 0:04) Um, I have only played five games with my Tau, but I have won three of them and I think that's a good thing. (Maybe because I wasn't pleased with my jungle fighters getting their butts kicked all the time by bossy Eldars and my brother's Space Marines. I just hate the Terminators with their power fists and 2+ save that is almost unpierceable with the normal IG's weapons. As I got the Tau book on my hands the first thing I checked out was the kroot and I was pretty amazed by their low costs. I mean, they have better strenght and initiative values than catachans, the same special rules and even better guns that also count as two close combat weapons! And they even got a 6+ armour save and Ld of 8 for +1 pt and they cost only 7 pts each.. Only thing that wasn't as good was their armour value. So I decided to start collecting them. I bought the 50£ army deal and a regiment of pathfinders. Then I went playing against Tyranids and won. (And there were two players against me. O.o) Then I played against Eldar and lost by a little lucky dice my opponent rolled at the ending. He had only his wraithlord left with one wound and I had my devilfish APC. (Yes, I like to play until one of the armies is wiped out.) I had kept gunning his wraithlord for several turns until it pressed my APC into a corner and I couldn't get away from it's assault. Then I played again against the tyranids and lost and then I played two times in a row against Eldar and won both times. Maybe I should get into tactics?
[14] RE: Tau Tactics? . (0 Replies). MrDana[]. 12/29/2001 0:04 (12/29/2001 0:04) You are so right about Kroot!! In a game I played recently I foud out just how cool the fieldcraft rules are. If you can fire through 12" of trees and your opponent can't see through more than 6" then your Kroot are extremely tough to move. Krootox are also pretty good. They give an excellent boost to both the unit's firepower and close combat ability. One unit with 12 Kroot and 1 Krootox took out a unit of Blood Angels bikes with such ease that I almost wept with joy. I think my opponent was also about to cry. (Kidding!) As for Crisis suits; I have one unit of 3 with Plasma Rifles and Missile pods (doesn't everybody?), and one unit with Plasma Rifles and Fusion Blasters. I've only played two games with my Tau, and I haven't had a chance to actually fire the Fusion Blasters. I chose the Fusion Blasters because I hate it when a Dreadnought marches into your line and you don't have anything handy to stop Armor 12. Also, in theory, when combined with the rapid fire Plasma Rifles this should give me excellent Marine-stopping power at 12". Perhaps I'd be better off doing what everybody seems to be doing and swap the Fusion Blasters for Busrt Cannons, but I'm going to give my Fusion Blasters at least one more chance. Pathfinders: That extra turns movement makes for
an excellent solution for that squad with the heavy weapons that your opponent
is hiding up the back. Even if this is a bit suicidal it seemed to work
last time I played. The mistake I made - after my squad was wiped out -
was not being prepared to sacrifice the Devilfish to hold up that side
of the tables movement (Thus giving me more time to pick off bits and pieces).
Sorry for ranting and raving for so long, MrDana
[14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics
Thread - KROOT RULES . (5 Replies). Tfarcraw[]. 12/13/2001 1:20 (12/30/2001
23:04) I'm just a little unclear about the rules for including Kroot hounds
and Krootox in the army. The codex states:
Does this mean that I cannot have a squad of 20
Kroot PLUS like 4 Hounds PLUS 2 Krootox making a squad of 26?
Am I totally off here? Thanks in advance --Tfarcraw
[14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread - KROOT RULES . (4
Replies). LCMonaghan[]. 12/13/2001 3:41 (12/30/2001 23:04) >> I'm just
a little unclear about the rules for including Kroot hounds and Krootox
in the army. The codex states:
The limitation is about the number of Kroot. You cannot have more Hounds and Ox than the Kroot in the squad are, thus 10 Kroot and 11 Hounds or 10 Kroot and 8 Hounds + 3 Ox will be illegal. Instead 16 Kroot + 8 Hounds + 8 Ox is perfectly ok. LC Monaghan
[14] RE: RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread - KROOT RULES .
(3 Replies). von straub[]. 12/13/2001 11:46 (12/30/2001 23:04) >> >> I'm
just a little unclear about the rules for including Kroot hounds and Krootox
in the army. The codex states:
Erm...Yes, you could have that. As long as the number of hounds and oxen does not exceed the number of Carnivores. >> >> It seems to suggest that you have to pay
for however many Kroot you want, I.E. 16 Kroot. Then you *upgrade* them
to Hounds or Krootox. So if I want 3 Hounds and 2 Krootox, I pay the pts
for them as well and I then have a squad of 11 Kroot, 3 Hounds, and 2 Krootox.
Yes, you are, actually...
Which brings up an interesting question:
VS
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies . (2 Replies). Rlyehable[]. 12/13/2001 12:10 (12/30/2001 23:04) Correct. So the maximum size of a Kroot unit is 40. 20 Kroot Carnivores (may include shaper), and a combination of 20 Kroot Hounds and/or Krootox. This combination would take at least 4 slots (1 Troop, 3 Fast Attack). Are Kroot Hounds worth a FA slot? I don't know. I have yet to play with a Gun Drone squad (hopefully Saturday). What do you gain? A chance to wound if the opponents fall back from close combat. What do you loose? A Gun Drone or Pathfinder unit. However, they are cheap. As for the Krootox, I think that this is a looser
in anything but an all Kroot force. The trade off is about 2 Krootox to
a Broadside or 3 to a Hammerhead. The gun is only S7, so cannot hurt a
Land Raider. It is also instant-killed by strength 6 weapons. The Krootox
also has the penalty of keeping the Kroot Carnivore squad, to which it
is attached, from infiltrating.
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies . (1 Replies). GhostXV[]. 12/13/2001
14:43 (12/30/2001 23:04) >>
Personally, I want to have a squad of 20 canrivores,
16 hounds, and 3 oxen. This only uses 2 FA slots and 1HS slot. This way
you have a huge kroot squad and still have rooms for pathfinders or gundrones,
as well as 2 tanks/broadside teams.
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kroot Subspecies . (0 Replies). CougarInExile[].
12/30/2001 23:04 (12/30/2001 23:04) >> >>
One problem I can see with that squad... pinning.
You only need to take 1 casualty from an appropriate weapon and the other
38 dive for cover quicker than you can say "Chimera - meals on wheels"
[14] !!!!Read this Tau!!!! . (3 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/15/2001 12:32 (12/29/2001 0:29) I need a Tau army that will really kick ass against pretty much anything. I've never played a Warhammer 40,000 army and I know Tau aren't a begginer army but I like going in for hard things. I need to know what will total anhilate my opponent
(especially Space Marine chapters) and what will sit on the side lines
watching and run at the first sight of trouble. Combinations for Hammerheads,
Crisis and Broadside Battlesuits, XV8 Commanders and Kroot Carnivore Squads
(with Kroot Hounds and Krootox). Also what can rip through big tanks!!
"For the Greater Good" P.S. What are Barracudas and Mantas, are they
coming out and what will the stats be?????????????
I need a Tau army that will really kick ass against pretty much anything. I've never played a Warhammer 40,000 army and I know Tau aren't a begginer army but I like going in for hard things. I need to know what will total anhilate my opponent
(especially Space Marine chapters) and what will sit on the side lines
watching and run at the first sight of trouble. Combinations for Hammerheads,
Crisis and Broadside Battlesuits, XV8 Commanders and Kroot Carnivore Squads
(with Kroot Hounds and Krootox). Also what can rip through big tanks!!
"For the Greater Good" P.S. What are Barracudas and Mantas, are they
coming out and what will the stats be?????????????
I need a Tau army that will really kick ass against pretty much anything. I've never played a Warhammer 40,000 army and I know Tau aren't a begginer army but I like going in for hard things. I need to know what will total anhilate my opponent
(especially Space Marine chapters) and what will sit on the side lines
watching and run at the first sight of trouble. Combinations for Hammerheads,
Crisis and Broadside Battlesuits, XV8 Commanders and Kroot Carnivore Squads
(with Kroot Hounds and Krootox). Also what can rip through big tanks!!
"For the Greater Good" P.S. What are Barracudas and Mantas, are they
coming out and what will the stats be?????????????
Reply
[14] RE: !!!!Read this Tau!!!! . (0 Replies). MrDana[]. 12/29/2001 0:29
(12/29/2001 0:29) >> I need a Tau army that will really kick ass against
pretty much anything. I've never played a Warhammer 40,000 army and I know
Tau aren't a begginer army but I like going in for hard things.
Just one problem I faced when fighting Blood Angels was this: I set up my Broadsides with a fairly good view of the battlefield but didn't have any cover available as such. My opponent had a Land Raider with a clear shot at my Broadsides. His twin-linked lascannons hit and vaporised two of my Broadsides in one turn (>2x toughness = instant kill, + no save). So, the moral of the story is that your Broadsides
need an invulnerable save of some sort. Perhaps give them shield drone
and/or shield generators. Shield drones mean that you can still take a
multi-tracker, and allow you to take the exact same barrage without losing
a single Broadside even if your drones fail their saves. If they pass their
saves, then all is well and good for the next barrage of heavy weapons.
Another point: The first army I collected for 40k was Dark Eldar, so I know all too well about Dark Lances. These high-strength, good-AP weapons could cause some problems. We'll have to wait and see. If you face Dark Eldar at all I'd love to hear the results. Thanx, MrDana
[14] EMP and Photon Grenades
. (13 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/16/2001 6:35 (12/28/2001 21:16) When using
Fire Warriors can I fire a Pulse Rifle or Pulse Carbine and then use my
grenades, or can I only use one per turn?
Bologs P.S. Do I have to stick those little grenade things
onto the Fire Warriors to use the grenades? If so where??
For the Greater Good Reply
[14] RE: EMP and Photon Grenades . (12 Replies). von straub[]. 12/16/2001 15:29 (12/28/2001 21:16) >> When using Fire Warriors can I fire a Pulse Rifle or Pulse Carbine and then use my grenades, or can I only use one per turn? You don't actually "fire" grenades. Where to begin...
>> Which are better EMP or Photon? Photon upgrade is a great defense when you're
charged. Marines getting 20 attacks or 10 attacks -- big difference.
>>
WYSIWYG!! Glue them to the waist, as if they're hanging off the belt. VS
[14] RE: RE: EMP and Photon Grenades . (8 Replies). ChazDaTaco[motty_brown@hotmail.com]. 12/16/2001 16:07 (12/28/2001 21:16) Hey, Just one little nagging question I have about the photon grenades is this: Do ALL the models in the unit assaulting you lose their +1 attack when they assault your squad carrying photon grenades? Or do your models that carry the grenades have to be in base-base contact with the enemy for their grenades to take effect? And one more thing, if your models holding the photon grenades are killed in HtH, but the assault is not over, do the enemy models re-gain their +1 attack? Any thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated, as me and my friend are having an argument on how the grenades work, and I wanna be able to take him on with all the advantages I can muster ;) That meaning I want to be sure the rules I want to use are the right ones, if they are not, tough cheese for me, I'll live..... though my Tau might not :P -Chaz Out
[14] RE: RE: RE: EMP and Photon Grenades . (2 Replies). von straub[]. 12/16/2001
19:09 (12/28/2001 21:16) >> Hey,
Not sure what the question is. Let's assume that
one enemy squad charges one Tau squad armed with Photons. As you have to
equip EVERY model in the squad with Photons, then yes: The enemy loses
all their bonus attacks...Those not in contact only get one normal attack,
anyway.
>> And one more thing, if your models holding
the photon grenades are killed in HtH, but the assault is not over, do
the enemy models re-gain their +1 attack?
Huh? Photons negate bonus attacks for charging
-- the charge bonus only applies on the first turn of combat, not if the
combat continues on into subsequent turns...
VS
[14] I must dissagree . (0 Replies). Vowel[]. 12/28/2001 21:16 (12/28/2001
21:16) Read how the grenads affect combat, I'd say that the assaulting
squad would lose all extra attacks, even if some are attack a second squad.
[14] The Tau colour scheme
. (5 Replies). Bologs[]. 12/16/2001 6:45 (12/28/2001 21:22) Does anybody
else think that the Tau, yellow and orange, colour scheme is disgusting
and that it makes you feel sick??
[14] Mine are Pink......(NmT) . (0 Replies). Vowel[]. 12/28/2001 21:22
(12/28/2001 21:22) Not much Text.
My fire warroirs are warlock purple and black, but look pink..... My Pathfinders are Blue/Darker blue camo......................... My Stealth Suits are White/Grey (gotta be cool).................. Kroot Drybrushed Blue............................................
The rest are Pink................................................
[14] 2 Pathfinder Units and Devilfish . (3 Replies). Rlyehable[]. 12/17/2001 14:12 (12/23/2001 5:56) If you have 2 pathfinder units with 6 figures, do you need to purchase 2 Devilfish? A DF holds 12 figures. And pathfinders must have a Devilfish. But could 2 Pathfinder units utilize a single Devilfish? I think that the answer is no, but would like
your input.
[14] RE: 2 Pathfinder Units and Devilfish . (0 Replies). enkidu[]. 12/23/2001
5:56 (12/23/2001 5:56) >> If you have 2 pathfinder units with 6 figures,
do you need to purchase 2 Devilfish? A DF holds 12 figures. And pathfinders
must have a Devilfish. But could 2 Pathfinder units utilize a single Devilfish?
Rly, I remember reading in the basic rules, a long time ago, that two units couldn't share the same APC. I'm sure they'd of mentioned such an enterprising idea in the codex if the Tau had had it. Enkidu
[14] RE: Commander and Drones -- Unit? . (2 Replies). Rlyehable[]. 12/19/2001 7:47 (12/23/2001 5:52) Are a Commander without a bodyguard (or Ethereal) and HW controlled drones a unit? The answer is somewhat ambiguous. Here is why: The bottom left of p. 18 only mentions drones
for the 25%
The top right of p. 18 states that an independant
character
P. 22 indicates that a Commander, unless joined
by a
P. 23 under Ethereal. It also indicates that the
Ethereal
Confusing! I do not have an answer. If I were going to split
legal
What difference does it make? Since the Commander (or Ethereal) is an Independant Character (IC), if they are not in a unit, they may not be targeted if there is a friendly unit within 6" of them (unless they are the closest figure and within 12" of the enemy). It would be nice if GW cleared this up. -Bri Reply
[14] RE: RE: Commander and Drones -- Unit? . (0 Replies). enkidu[]. 12/23/2001
5:52 (12/23/2001 5:52) >> Are a Commander without a bodyguard (or Ethereal)
and HW controlled drones a unit?
Bri, my understanding of the codex is that the choice of a Drone Controller for a Commander does not make him a unit...as in needing to take a morale check if one drone dies, and a last-man-standing check if the second dies. Were that the case, I'd expect to be compensated
with extra points for adding drones to my Commander, as their addition
would turn an Independent Character who will never run away, into a unit
that has to pass a morale check at the 1st casualty,
Enkidu
[14] Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret . (4 Replies). ChazDaTaco[motty_brown@hotmail.com]. 12/20/2001 15:23 (12/23/2001 5:46) Hey everybody, Just so I know what the heck I'm doing when I get my Tau on Monday (WOOHOO!!), what is the best way to mix paint so you can apply it to the model? Also, I'm making some scenery, was doing it today, and I wanted to add a little Tau turret thingy... Possibly with some twin-linked pulse carbines, or plasma rifles, don't really wanna go overboard with it ;) Where would I go to find out how many points I should make it? Cheers to any responses
[14] RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret . (3 Replies).
von straub[]. 12/21/2001 15:08 (12/23/2001 5:46) >> Hey everybody,
Mix paint? Do you mean to get a color that doesn't
come prepackaged? I like to make entire pots of the color, so that when
I come back later I don't have to spend 6 hours getting the same mix...
For the little defense turret, you can use the VDR to create an immobile vehicle of small or normal size (probably small), and then add weapons -- however, a list of point costs for the Tau weapons is not available yet. In the meantime, you could guess high, or use other races' weapons that are similar. VS
[14] RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret . (2 Replies).
ChazDaTaco[motty_brown@hotmail.com]. 12/22/2001 6:15 (12/23/2001 5:46)
>> >> Hey everybody,
Ah, Thanks for the advice :D I was more planning on mixing the colours together on some kind of surface or palette. -Chaz Out
[14] RE: RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret . (1
Replies). von straub[]. 12/22/2001 14:52 (12/23/2001 5:46) >> Ah,
Ah-ha. That works fine for one-off models like
characters where they may need a color you may never need again...But if
you're mixing for a whole army, mix whole pots of the stuff. I think the
Mega-Paint set comes with 5 or 6 empty pots as well. I don't know if mail
order has them for sale seperately...
VS
[14] RE: RE: RE: RE: Painting my Tau & making a little gun turret . (0 Replies). ChazDaTaco[motty_brown@hotmail.com]. 12/23/2001 5:46 (12/23/2001 5:46) One last thing, Is there anywhere on the net where I can find the VDR rules? Or is there a specific issue of White Dwarf I have to buy perhaps?? -Chaz Out
[14] RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (3 Replies). GoTau[mini_dobz0@hotmail.com]. 12/21/2001 23:14 (12/27/2001 11:59) can Tau armies be named or are they all known as Tau thanx
[14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (0 Replies). Jordanskater[Jordanskater@skateboard.com].
12/22/2001 22:12 (12/22/2001 22:12) >> can Tau armies be named or are they
all known as Tau
Tau armies can all be from a particullar sept
such as Viorla and Tau'n
[14] RE: RE: Tau Questions,Scenarios,Tactics Thread . (0 Replies). enkidu[].
12/23/2001 5:41 (12/23/2001 5:41) >> can Tau armies be named or are they
all known as Tau
GT, they have septs...like chapters. Some are mentioned in the hobby section of the codex. -Enkidu
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