========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== TheGreatWolf.
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== modernartcamoflauge (2/1/2002 11:17). 
           what ive never understood khornesrage (2/1/2002 11:19). 
               RE: what ive never understood quintavalli (2/1/2002 14:23). 
               EXTERMINATOR ROCKS! GawaintheStout (2/1/2002 20:41). 
           my bits and pieces krakgrenade (2/1/2002 13:25). 
       what you need to understand is modernartcamoflauge (2/1/2002 11:50). 
       Greetings! BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/1/2002 11:58). 
           RE: Greetings! TheGreatWolf (2/1/2002 14:29). 
               let the discussion continue! :-) BloodAngelBrotherEdward (2/3/2002 0:30). 
       my very succsessfull 1000pts army list creepinjeezus (2/1/2002 12:39). 
           apart from one minor detail... krakgrenade (2/1/2002 13:16). 
               RE: apart from one minor detail... creepinjeezus (2/1/2002 14:09). 
                   RE: RE: apart from one minor detail... HarkonGreywolf (2/1/2002 14:42). 
                       didnt mean to sound like a biatch! krakgrenade (2/1/2002 17:22). 
                   Not true Drezbin (2/1/2002 20:20). 
       LISTEN TO MY ADVICE TheGreatWolf (2/1/2002 15:09). 
           your thoughts TheGreatWolf (2/1/2002 16:26). 
           Ive listened - to some! krakgrenade (2/1/2002 17:19). 
               RE: Ive listened - to some! TheGreatWolf (2/2/2002 14:07). 
                   I dont play SW but i have some advice WarpExarch (2/2/2002 14:37). 
                   Razorback.... smithedw (2/2/2002 14:49). 
                       RE: Razorback.... TheGreatWolf (2/2/2002 15:00). 
                           so there! krakgrenade (2/3/2002 6:56). 
           just 1 problem with your plan icculus (2/2/2002 3:23). 
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== NaT (2/1/2002 18:10). 
       Wisdom of the Sagas Wolfpoet (2/1/2002 18:51). 
       Why does everyone like Grey Hunters so much? fleshborer (2/1/2002 19:04). 
           RE: Why does everyone like Grey Hunters so much? HarkonGreywolf (2/1/2002 19:14). 
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== Moredo (2/1/2002 20:51). 
           not quite my misinformed brother! krakgrenade (2/2/2002 5:37). 
               RE: not quite my misinformed brother! HarkonGreywolf (2/2/2002 8:27). 
       ====== ALL WOLF LORDS: READ ====== TheGreatWolf (2/2/2002 14:21). 
       ======SPACE WOLVES WEB SITE====== TheGreatWolf (2/2/2002 15:24). 
       Yeah, I have some advice too! TundraWolf (2/3/2002 0:47). 
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== yellowsign (2/3/2002 1:52). 
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== korporalkaos (2/3/2002 3:33). 
       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== Juicebox (2/3/2002 4:41). 
       Awoooo... bang! yike- yike.. Coffinshaker (2/3/2002 6:35). 
           hehe krakgrenade (2/3/2002 6:51). 
               RE: spose yer right (NT) coffinshaker (2/3/2002 8:57). 
               RE: spose yer right coffinshaker (2/3/2002 9:01). 
       1450 Pits and a slight problem LordCommanderCraigDocherty (2/3/2002 7:23). 
           RE: 1450 Pits and a slight problem HarkonGreywolf (2/3/2002 7:58). 
       ====== WEB SITE ====== TheGreatWolf (2/3/2002 15:56). 
           USe my website - its got everyone there already! krakgrenade (2/4/2002 6:18). 
       Bump.... for Ironwolf.... smithedw (2/4/2002 5:54). 
 
 

  ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (46 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/1/2002 10:48 (2/4/2002 6:18) 
 because i truly love space wolves and believe they should win any battle they enter if im
 controling them or if someone else where is playing, i have made this post!!!

 Space Wolves players, come and share tips, tactics and show us your army lists. if this works
 your armys will be even stronger!!!
 

 Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 The Fang
 Fenris 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (4 Replies). modernartcamoflauge[]. 2/1/2002
 11:17 (2/1/2002 20:41) 
 one of my favriot tatics is to take advantage of the exterminator and leave it on the back lihje
 right next to my anihalator so i can blow away tanks of weaken a squad for my blood claws
 also dont waist your time with 15 man blood claws go for 10s and a rhino because a 15 is not
 likley to make it across the board but a 10 and a rhino is and just field a 10 man grey hunter
 with only bolters as they are next to useless in a assult oh one more thing on bc's dont give em
 plasma pistols only power weapons meltagun and a power fist that is a good combo it can kill
 quite a few things also dont igore the venerable dreadnaght
 it has superb specal abbilites and a good battel leader and body guard can be usefull in termy
 armor for suporting attacks or ire power also the bikes are not really all that expensive for all
 the things they do i sugest you invest in them and give them a battel leader as well.
 

 Brother Titanis
 "Retribution is close at hand scum." 
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           what ive never understood . (2 Replies). khornesrage[Khornes_rage@yahoo.co.uk]. 2/1/2002
 11:19 (2/1/2002 20:41) 
 is y SW get Exterminators? its 2 slow & heavy...

 on tactics.. take 14 blood claws & a rune priest & shove em inna Crusader...

 Rage
 www.btinternet.com/~fryclan 
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               RE: what ive never understood . (0 Replies). quintavalli[]. 2/1/2002 14:23 (2/1/2002 14:23) 
 >> is y SW get Exterminators? its 2 slow & heavy...
 >> 
 >> on tactics.. take 14 blood claws & a rune priest & shove em inna Crusader...
 >> 
 >> Rage
 >> www.btinternet.com/~fryclan

 I concur with the use of the Crusader. However, due to points I don't use a rune priest. I
 mount a Wolf priest on a bike and give him some Fen. Wolves and send him with the other
 Blood Claw Bikers. I also use two squads of Grey Hunters in Rhinos. I always go for the
 smoke launchers too. I use a command squad in a Land Raider Promethesus too. Depending
 on the points of the game I will use a Drop pod for a Venerable Dreadnought and of course
 Scouts. Everything is geared for close combat so the rey Hunters have Close Combat
 weapons, one power weapon and one power fist. The Blood Claws have one flamer, one
 power weapon and one power fist. 
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               EXTERMINATOR ROCKS! . (0 Replies). GawaintheStout[]. 2/1/2002 20:41 (2/1/2002 20:41) 
 >> is y SW get Exterminators? its 2 slow & heavy...
 >> 
 >> on tactics.. take 14 blood claws & a rune priest & shove em inna Crusader...
 >> 
 >> Rage
 >> www.btinternet.com/~fryclan
 
 
 

 My exterminator, while designed to take out hordes of unarmored troops, has been
 PHENOMENAL in reducing space marine squads to piles of husking power-armor shells.

 In one battle, it took out 15 blood angels, and their rhino.

 In a second battle, it took out a terminator and a rhino (had a bad day)

 In the third battle, it took out 4 of 7 dark angel bikes from a 5-bike/1 attack bike/1 chaplain
 on bike squad

 In the most recent battle, in a single round of fire, it cut a black templar tactical squad from ten
 to five. A tactical error on my part allowed it to melt under the tender loving care of an eversol
 assassin with meltabombs, so that was considered another bad day.

 So far, the tank proves a worthy adversary because
 A) with 13 shots (and 2 re-rolls if the AC misses) I'm bound to kill SOMETHING every turn,
 and usually more than one of them.

 B) with S7 primary weapon, can challenge anything but toughest armor.

 C) With Front Armor 14, makes an excellent target (big and prominent on the battlefield) for
 heavy weapons, instead of my TL Lascannon Venerable and TL Lascannon razorback --
 who then live a little longer to take out whatever's shooting at the Leman.

 At a cost of 215 points it's an effective killing machine. It has not killed its own point-value
 (except for the BA massacre).. but the number of points it's saved by being a target, included
 with the damage its done, has made it more than worth it to me. 

 1 died from auto cannon fire. 
 1 died from 
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           my bits and pieces . (0 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/1/2002 13:25 (2/1/2002 13:25) 
 Blimey! I couldnt read that without taking a breath. Unfortunately I had to make up the
 punctuation in there as it seemed to have gone walkies!

 Ah well. Not all of us have the joys of spell checkers.

 Anyway, nice thread start.

 I have approx 3000 points of the Space Puppies myself now. 
 Not all entirely fieldable though as I have more than I need. Ie I have Blood Claws set with
 WYSIWYG incase i want to field 15 with 3 power fists, or 3 power weapons.
 Usually I field the BC's in 9's with 2 power weapons, and attach a Rune Priest and put them in
 a Rhino. I also use Flamers with these guys as it autohits and hasnt got to rely on the BS of 3.

 My Grey Hunters are typically armed with a meltagun, plasma pistols/power weapons. With a
 BS of 4 it makes the meltagun/plasma pistols hit more often than not.

 I also deply a tooled up scout unit against armoured units. 6 scouts with 2 plasma, 2 power
 and a meltagun with meltabombs do untold damage behind enemy lines.

 Have a look at some of my pics on
 http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves

 Its got my complete army list on here too.

 I like my Leman Russ Exterminator! Pic on the above site!
 I also have a Whirlwind for use in the 1000 point games.

 My Long Fangs can be changed depending on enemy/scenario too. I only field the one pack
 but have 2 lascannon, 2 heavy bolter, 2 missile launcher and a plasmacannon &multimelta to
 choose from.
 Usually the lascannons and hvy bolters come out to play.

 thats about it from me!

 happy gaming to all Puppy commanders! 
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       what you need to understand is . (0 Replies). modernartcamoflauge[]. 2/1/2002 11:50 (2/1/2002 11:50)
 that the exterminator is actually faster then troops and can be deployed just as quickly besides
 how much moving does a extermonator need to do anyway? 
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       Greetings! . (2 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/1/2002 11:58 (2/3/2002 0:30) 
 Greetings Honorable Great Wolf!

 I just wanted to wish the Space Wolves much success with your tactical thread! We of the
 Blood Angels have benefitted greatly from gathering the wisdom of veteran (and new!)
 players! Furthermore I will be keeping a watchful eye on this thread as it develops, for I am
 planning on making a small Space Wolves force of my own sometime this spring or summer
 :-)

 Glory to the Emperor ~ Brother Edward 
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           RE: Greetings! . (1 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/1/2002 14:29 (2/3/2002 0:30) 
 >> Greetings Honorable Great Wolf!
 >> 
 >> I just wanted to wish the Space Wolves much success with your tactical thread! We of the
 Blood Angels have benefitted greatly from gathering the wisdom of veteran (and new!)
 players! Furthermore I will be keeping a watchful eye on this thread as it develops, for I am
 planning on making a small Space Wolves force of my own sometime this spring or summer
 :-)
 >> 
 >> Glory to the Emperor ~ Brother Edward
 

 Great!!! the more the merryer

 What Great Company are you thinking of collecting? Ragnar Blackmane's Blackmane
 company? thats a common one

 Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 The Fang
 Fenris 
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               let the discussion continue! :-) . (0 Replies). BloodAngelBrotherEdward[]. 2/3/2002 0:30
 (2/3/2002 0:30) 

 >> Great!!! the more the merryer
 >> 
 >> What Great Company are you thinking of collecting? Ragnar Blackmane's Blackmane
 company? thats a common one
 >> 
 >> Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 >> The Fang
 >> Fenris

 +++++ Hello again!

 I'm not at all sure of which Great Company, I'm still in the 'reconaissance' phase of the
 operation :-)

 So in the spirit of learning more I hereby bump this thread back to the front! :-)

 Glory to the Emperor ~ Brother Edward 
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       my very succsessfull 1000pts army list . (5 Replies).
 creepinjeezus[creepin_jeezus2001@hotmail.com or maccarocks34@hotmail.com]. 2/1/2002 12:39
 (2/1/2002 20:20) 
 Space wolves army list (1000 PTS)

 HQ
 Venerable dreadnought
 Assault, cannon and smoke launchers
 PTS: 158

 Elite
 Wolf Guard Pack Leader
 Power fist, bolter, wolf tooth necklace, wolf pelt, frag and krak grenades, wolf tail talisman.
 PTS: 63

 Troops
 Grey Hunter Pack one
 10 men, 2 plasma pistols, power weapon
 PTS: 200

 Grey Hunter Pack two
 10 men, melta gun, power fist, power weapon
 PTS: 205

 Blood Claws Pack
 9 men, melta gun, power fist
 PTS: 146

 Heavy Support 

 Long Fangs
 Plasma cannon, lasconnon, Heavy Bolter, mutli-melta, sergeant has a Power Weapon and
 Bolter.
 PTS: 228

 TOTAL: 999 
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           apart from one minor detail... . (4 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/1/2002 13:16 (2/1/2002 20:20) 
 >> Space wolves army list (1000 PTS)
 >> 
 >> HQ
 >> Venerable dreadnought
 >> Assault, cannon and smoke launchers
 >> PTS: 158
 >> 
 >> Elite
 >> Wolf Guard Pack Leader
 >> Power fist, bolter, wolf tooth necklace, wolf pelt, frag and krak grenades, wolf tail
 talisman.
 >> PTS: 63
 >> 
 >> Troops
 >> Grey Hunter Pack one
 >> 10 men, 2 plasma pistols, power weapon
 >> PTS: 200
 >> 
 >> Grey Hunter Pack two
 >> 10 men, melta gun, power fist, power weapon
 >> PTS: 205
 >> 
 >> Blood Claws Pack
 >> 9 men, melta gun, power fist
 >> PTS: 146
 >> 
 >> Heavy Support 
 >> 
 >> Long Fangs
 >> Plasma cannon, lasconnon, Heavy Bolter, mutli-melta, sergeant has a Power Weapon and
 Bolter.
 >> PTS: 228
 >> 
 >> TOTAL: 999

 And for the REQUIRED second HQ choice??? Umm thgis list is illegal! You need 2 HQ's for
 1000 point games my Russ following friend!
 You have success with a Long Fang pack straight out of the box?! Thats a rarity on its own.
 Try having 2x2 of the same weapon. Ie 2 las cannons and 2 missile launchers. With split fire
 rules this will be far more effective. Trust me!

 The troop choice is nice though. But when you add the required second HQ, this will hit
 nearly 1150 points....

 Let us know when ya finish it!

 http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves

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               RE: apart from one minor detail... . (3 Replies).
 creepinjeezus[creepin_jeezus2001@hotmail.com or maccarocks34@hotmail.com]. 2/1/2002 14:09
 (2/1/2002 20:20) 
 actually its how you interpret "rounding up" i say it's like you round 4.4 down and 4.5 up not
 everything rounds to the next whole number, opinions vary from person to person, and there is
 no need to press that caps button, its just annoying, although i do have to admit the long fangs
 are limiting, but i dont really have the money to but models just like that, besides im not a very
 picky person im quite happy with whats in thre box (although i really want to drop the
 multi-melta for a rocket dude)

 >> And for the REQUIRED second HQ choice??? Umm thgis list is illegal! You need 2 HQ's
 for 1000 point games my Russ following friend!
 >> You have success with a Long Fang pack straight out of the box?! Thats a rarity on its
 own. Try having 2x2 of the same weapon. Ie 2 las cannons and 2 missile launchers. With split
 fire rules this will be far more effective. Trust me!
 >> 
 >> The troop choice is nice though. But when you add the required second HQ, this will hit
 nearly 1150 points....
 >> 
 >> Let us know when ya finish it!
 >> 
 >> http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves
 >> 
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                   RE: RE: apart from one minor detail... . (1 Replies). HarkonGreywolf[]. 2/1/2002 14:42
 (2/1/2002 17:22) 
 Sorry my furry friend! It's NOT how you round up! Per the codex every 750 or PART
 thereof has to have an HQ. This isn't optional!
 I've just bought a crusader for one of my blood claws and this takes me up over the next 750
 multiple so I've had to get another wolf guard battle leader (converting up the assault sergeant
 with grenade) so that my full army could be fielded if I wanted, nearly 5000pts!!!

 My previous army list is also on KrakGrenades community site, take a look, the list is too long
 to put up here. (My pc isn't capable of staying on line long enough for me to type it up, and I
 can't get the cut&paste thing going at all!)

 Blood Angels Brother Edward, if you're thinking of going sw's Welcome to the kennel!!
 Maybe you could also contribute to the Space Wolves section of the community site? before
 you load up to your site naturally!!!!

 OK, Krak there's another plug for you mate!

 Harkon Greywolf (PR a speciality?)

 >> actually its how you interpret "rounding up" i say it's like you round 4.4 down and 4.5 up
 not everything rounds to the next whole number, opinions vary from person to person, and
 there is no need to press that caps button, its just annoying, although i do have to admit the
 long fangs are limiting, but i dont really have the money to but models just like that, besides im
 not a very picky person im quite happy with whats in thre box (although i really want to drop
 the multi-melta for a rocket dude)
 >> 
 >> >> And for the REQUIRED second HQ choice??? Umm thgis list is illegal! You need 2
 HQ's for 1000 point games my Russ following friend!
 >> >> You have success with a Long Fang pack straight out of the box?! Thats a rarity on its
 own. Try having 2x2 of the same weapon. Ie 2 las cannons and 2 missile launchers. With split
 fire rules this will be far more effective. Trust me!
 >> >> 
 >> >> The troop choice is nice though. But when you add the required second HQ, this will
 hit nearly 1150 points....
 >> >> 
 >> >> Let us know when ya finish it!
 >> >> 
 >> >> http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves
 >> >> 
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                       didnt mean to sound like a biatch! . (0 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/1/2002 17:22 (2/1/2002
 17:22) 
 Sorry about the CAPITALS. I wasnt trying to be sarky - honest!
 I just wanted to make a point about it.

 Cheers Harkon me old furry friend!

 Just to clarify the rounding of points...
 0-750 = 1 HQ
 751 - 1500 = 2 HQ
 1501 - 2250 = 3HQ
 2251 - 3000 = 4 HQ

 You dont round down lol, its for every 750 or part thereof.
 Hope to see the revised list soon Mr CreepinJ.

 PS Harkon - keep up the shameful plugs... *ego boost*

 PPS B.A.B.E good choice my friend. Put them nice shiney red ones away for the time being!

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                   Not true . (0 Replies). Drezbin[ben_mcdonnell@hotmail.com]. 2/1/2002 20:20 (2/1/2002 20:20)
 An army is rounded up fully, and therefore anything from 1995 points is really classed as a
 2000 point army. Besides, are you gonna tell your opponent, oh you can't field a 2000 point
 army against me, my army is only 1999 points...

 And I doubt he used the caps (just a tought) for one word many people use a shift key :)

 >> actually its how you interpret "rounding up" i say it's like you round 4.4 down and 4.5 up
 not everything rounds to the next whole number, opinions vary from person to person, and
 there is no need to press that caps button, its just annoying, although i do have to admit the
 long fangs are limiting, but i dont really have the money to but models just like that, besides im
 not a very picky person im quite happy with whats in thre box (although i really want to drop
 the multi-melta for a rocket dude)
 >> 
 >> >> And for the REQUIRED second HQ choice??? Umm thgis list is illegal! You need 2
 HQ's for 1000 point games my Russ following friend!
 >> >> You have success with a Long Fang pack straight out of the box?! Thats a rarity on its
 own. Try having 2x2 of the same weapon. Ie 2 las cannons and 2 missile launchers. With split
 fire rules this will be far more effective. Trust me!
 >> >> 
 >> >> The troop choice is nice though. But when you add the required second HQ, this will
 hit nearly 1150 points....
 >> >> 
 >> >> Let us know when ya finish it!
 >> >> 
 >> >> http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves
 >> >> 
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       LISTEN TO MY ADVICE . (8 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/1/2002 15:09 (2/3/2002 6:56) 
 Thank you fellow Wolf Lords, this is exactly how i wanted this to happen. but now its time of
 The Great Wolf to share his wisdom of the battlefield
 This is how you use your troop choices on an army of about 1500 to 2000 pts.

 10 Blood Claws [1 flamer, 1 powerfist, 1 power weapon] + Rhino
 10 Grey Hunters [1 meltagun, 1 Power weapon] + Razorback
 10 Blood Claws [1 Flamer, 1 Powerfist, 1 Power weapon] + Rhino

 this is what ive found to be the ULTIMATE troop selection, a bit costly but wait till you see it
 in action. You have to trust your 'Old Wolf' on this one.
 a great tactic to use with these is to have another unit alongside it. this unit is:

 HQ
 1 Wold Lord + 4 Wolf Guard Bodyguard + Land Raider
 [Terminator armour,
 Assault cannon, 
 cyclone missile launcher]

 this is another recipie i have come up with, it is too costly but adding both this HQ choice and
 the troops what do you need apart from a venerable Dreadnought.

 Tactics: load the Rhinos, razorback and the Land raider and drive them right into the thick of
 the battle. Then they all unload, keeping the transports right behind them. 
 The Blood Claws jump right into Hand-To-Hand
 The Grey Hunters fire at any units not in combat
 The HQ choice can now either charge into H-to-H or it can use the assault cannon and the
 missiles to make a devistating blow.
 and to top it all off, the transports didnt just provide a safe journey to the battle the land raider
 equipped with lasscannons can takeout and tanks or walkers or a crusader with its 12 bolters
 can takeout even more infantry (handy for fighting orcs)

 So there is my very longwinded tactics. 

 If you let me guide you can achieve lots more as i am willing to share my wisdom

 Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 The Fang
 Fenris 
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           your thoughts . (0 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/1/2002 16:26 (2/1/2002 16:26) 
 what do you all think about this way of fighting? reply and tell me or give me any other way
 YOU have come up with 
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           Ive listened - to some! . (5 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/1/2002 17:19 (2/3/2002 6:56) 
 >> 10 Blood Claws [1 flamer, 1 powerfist, 1 power weapon] + Rhino
 >> 10 Grey Hunters [1 meltagun, 1 Power weapon] + Razorback
 >> 10 Blood Claws [1 Flamer, 1 Powerfist, 1 Power weapon] + Rhino

 >> Tactics: load the Rhinos, razorback and the Land raider and drive them right into the thick
 of the battle. Then they all unload, keeping the transports right behind them. >> 

 Load the Razorback? with who? 10 Grey Hunters? I didnt know they were aloowed to sit on
 each others laps!
 I think the math is a little out my fellow Wolf Lord!

 Its also not the most fludd based composition. Although many SW commanders dont play for
 the fluff, I know many do they chose the chapter because it has the best history of the SM's.
 there should be more Grey Hunters than Blood Claws, but it is just nit picking really.

 >> 1 Wold Lord + 4 Wolf Guard Bodyguard + Land Raider
 >> [Terminator armour,
 >> Assault cannon, 
 >> cyclone missile launcher]

 In a 1500 to 2000 points battle I wouldnt field a seperate HQ and bodyguard in Termie
 Armour. Its an awful lot of points to spend expecially with a Crusader or MK3. the points
 could be spent better elsewhere - but hey its your retinue and if it works then thats cool with
 me!
 Id certainly use this combo at around 2500 to 3000 no probs. 

 Ill have to dig up my 1000 pointer force with ther points on.
 Basically it goes like...
 Wolf Guard Battle Leader, MC plasma pistol, lighning claw & wargear - power armour

 Rune Priest with frostbade and MC bolt pistol + wargear

 9 blood claws, flamer, power wpn, Rhino with armour and smoke
 9 Grey Hunters, meltagun, power wpns, Rhino with armour and smoke

 Whirlwind

 The 2 HQ's lead the packs. 
 

 Cant remember if I got 4 scouts in there or another pack or hunters. Ill have to look it up, its
 on my puter somewhere...!
 Might have had a WGL as well, oh i dunno!

 Happy gaming all. 
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               RE: Ive listened - to some! . (4 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/2/2002 14:07 (2/3/2002 6:56) 

 >> Load the Razorback? with who? 10 Grey Hunters? I didnt know they were aloowed to sit
 on each others laps!
 >> I think the math is a little out my fellow Wolf Lord!

 Yes i am correct, Grey hunters may be transported in a Razorback. Read your Codex, it
 clearly says a Rhino at +50 pts or a Razorback at +70 or +80 pts (i forget)

 >> In a 1500 to 2000 points battle I wouldnt field a seperate HQ and bodyguard in Termie
 Armour. Its an awful lot of points to spend expecially with a Crusader or MK3. the points
 could be spent better elsewhere - but hey its your retinue and if it works then thats cool with
 me!
 >> Id certainly use this combo at around 2500 to 3000 no probs.

 That is when i use the combo. sorry, i didnt mention this but your right, if anyone used this
 tactic on a 1500 - 2000 pt army, that would prettly much be the whole army. 

 Also, i am very fond of my younger wolf brothers the blood calws. there is nothing more
 satisfying than seeing my youngsters quench their thirst for blood. this is just 1 of my MANY
 tactics. another tactic is to have 3 Grey hunters and 1 Blood Claw pack infront of them (used
 againt Chaos), the Grey Hunters Take out any models that cant resist the temptation of
 charging the Claws in H-to-H. of course the dreadnought is there to provide firepower or help
 in H-to-H if things get nasty. this is too a tactic for quite a small army. 
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                   I dont play SW but i have some advice . (0 Replies). WarpExarch[]. 2/2/2002 14:37 (2/2/2002
 14:37) 
 My black legion recently barely fought off a SW force. His forces:

 9 grey hunters in rhino, 1 power weapon, 1 flamer
 9 Blood claws in rhino 1 w/power weapon
 Runepriest in termie armour w/ power weapon
 Wolf Lord in artificer armour with powerfist and meltagun
 Predator w/ 2-linked lascannon and lascannon sponsons
 Whirlwind

 My forces:

 1 predator with nurgle infestation, autocannon and lascannon sponsons
 7 marines, 1 lascannon
 8 marines, 1 hvy bolter in rhino
 Chaos lord with termie armour, power weapon and combi-flamer
 5 termies, 1 w/autocannon, 3 w/ cc weapons, 1 w/powerfist 1 w/chainfist, 3 combiflamers
 and one combi-melta
 12 khorne berserkers 1 w/plasma pistol, champ with chaos armour and power weapon
 1 Juggernaut of khorne
 3 obliterators

 He blitzed me with both of his troops choices, and thanks to their (crappy) sweeping assault,
 he chewed through nearly half my army, then died to a combined shoot of ALL of my
 remaining troops. his remaining runepreist and wolf lord manadged to knock off so many of
 my guys that at the end, I only had the heavybolter guy and my predator left. My heavy bolter
 got the award of most valuable, for killing his runepriest (in cc, no less!)

 Moral of the story: all troops can be used as effective assault troops, and shouldn't be
 underestimated. 
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                   Razorback.... . (2 Replies). smithedw[]. 2/2/2002 14:49 (2/3/2002 6:56) 
 >> 
 >> >> Load the Razorback? with who? 10 Grey Hunters? I didnt know they were aloowed
 to sit on each others laps!
 >> >> I think the math is a little out my fellow Wolf Lord!
 >> 
 >> Yes i am correct, Grey hunters may be transported in a Razorback. Read your Codex, it
 clearly says a Rhino at +50 pts or a Razorback at +70 or +80 pts (i forget)
 >> 
 True, you can use a Razorback, but it can only hold 6 men not 10 as you suggested to rush
 forward in your tactics. So Grey Hunters can be transported in them but not the number you
 mentioned.
 For your reference page 175 of the rulebook states: 'The Razorback can carry up to six
 Space Marines.' end quote, sorry! 
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                       RE: Razorback.... . (1 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/2/2002 15:00 (2/3/2002 6:56) 

 >> True, you can use a Razorback, but it can only hold 6 men not 10 as you suggested to
 rush forward in your tactics. So Grey Hunters can be transported in them but not the number
 you mentioned.
 >> For your reference page 175 of the rulebook states: 'The Razorback can carry up to six
 Space Marines.' end quote, sorry!

 Sorry friends, this is a new tactic which i have only tested in unoficial matches against my
 friends at home. i hope they dont find out ive been (accidently) cheating. 
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                           so there! . (0 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/3/2002 6:56 (2/3/2002 6:56) 
 >> 
 >> >> True, you can use a Razorback, but it can only hold 6 men not 10 as you suggested to
 rush forward in your tactics. So Grey Hunters can be transported in them but not the number
 you mentioned.
 >> >> For your reference page 175 of the rulebook states: 'The Razorback can carry up to
 six Space Marines.' end quote, sorry!
 >> 
 >> Sorry friends, this is a new tactic which i have only tested in unoficial matches against my
 friends at home. i hope they dont find out ive been (accidently) cheating.

 This was the point i was making in the earlier thread about Hunters Taking razorbacks!!!!
 And you went off all quoting rules and stuff....
 YES They can have one but only when the pack is 6 strong hence the pack size is 6-10
 models!
 (This always amused me about the BC entry and says that BC cannot have razorbacks as
 they are reserved for senior units - but then the pack min is 8 - so they cant fit in it anyway!
 DUH!)

 I hope you 'fess up to your mates that you have been a naughty boy. You must report to the
 Company Rune Priest for immediate disciplinary action. 
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           just 1 problem with your plan . (0 Replies). icculus[]. 2/2/2002 3:23 (2/2/2002 3:23) 
 Its only a minor detail though im sure you just slipped up and typed 10 instead of 6.
 According to the big book the razorback only carries 6 marines not 10. 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (0 Replies). NaT[]. 2/1/2002 18:10 (2/1/2002 18:10) 
 this trik is fun but u gotta pull it off right

 the drive bye

 get any squad in a rino. move it up the the unit your are gonna assult, disembard now be sure
 that NON of the squad is out of 5' of the rino. when u destroy they squad consoladate(sp) 3
 inches towards the rino so all the squa is with in to of it. then re-embark :) your squad will be
 safe from eldar and IG big guns.
 for more go to 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~rhanlav/ taticts and stuff
 http://pub7.ezboard.com/bthebolterandchainsword

 NaT 
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       Wisdom of the Sagas . (0 Replies). Wolfpoet[]. 2/1/2002 18:51 (2/1/2002 18:51) 
 Brothers, it is good that we are sharing our wisdom. Now my fellow wolves, step into the
 circle and listen to the wisdom of the Sagas.

 First among all other considerations is our natures, we are Wolves made manifest. And such
 our tactics must reflect this.
 Our packs must work as one, while the young Blood Claws charge forward the wiser Grey
 Hunters must advance in support.

 One Blood claw pack should advance down the center, finding glory in the chase. One Grey
 hunter pack should advance alongside each flank and support the Blood claws.
 Behind these three packs the Venerable dreadnought shall follow the advance, adding his
 firepower to the fray.
 The Wolf Lord with his bodyguard should be mounted in one of the rare Land Raider
 Crusaders and take one flank, while the wolf scouts infiltrate the foe and eliminate his support
 assets.

 Thus my Brothers is the battle won and your place in the Sagas assured! 
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       Why does everyone like Grey Hunters so much? . (1 Replies). fleshborer[]. 2/1/2002 19:04 (2/1/2002
 19:14) 
 I personally only thik they're good in a defensive game. My stratagy is to pray for a mission
 with deep strike, and then load up on squads of 15 Blood Claws with 3 Power weapons/fists
 (depending on who I'm playing) and deep strike the whole army with drop pods. Then, bring
 on the close combat! Oh, and try to stay more then 12" away from enemys with your blood
 claws, and get as close as you can with your grey hunters. And be sure to give wolf tooth
 neclaces to every one you can. (I've seen a Court of the Young King get wiped out thanks to
 them.) As you can see I'm a little obsesed with HtH. Oh, and if you can't deep strike, get lots
 of Rhinos. 

 Well thats my advice, and it works for me. Oh, and build some city terain because Space
 Wolves SLAUGHTER in city fight! You count ALL attacks within 6", which makes a squad
 of 15 charging Blood Claws EXTREAMLY effective. 

 Any way, if any one wants to comment or point out flaws in my strategy, feel free, and I hope
 this helps people. 
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           RE: Why does everyone like Grey Hunters so much? . (0 Replies). HarkonGreywolf[]. 2/1/2002
 19:14 (2/1/2002 19:14) 
 OK.
 How do you justifythe fluff on all these blood claws, or don't you bother?
 To me the fluff is important, but I can see ways of explaining disproportionate amounts of
 claws in certain cases. However I personally don't like power gaming, I'd rather play and lose
 than go out of character for my army and win.
 Guess that's just me.
 Harkon Greywolf (too old to worry about winning, just out to enjoy!)
 

 >> I personally only thik they're good in a defensive game. My stratagy is to pray for a
 mission with deep strike, and then load up on squads of 15 Blood Claws with 3 Power
 weapons/fists (depending on who I'm playing) and deep strike the whole army with drop
 pods. Then, bring on the close combat! Oh, and try to stay more then 12" away from enemys
 with your blood claws, and get as close as you can with your grey hunters. And be sure to
 give wolf tooth neclaces to every one you can. (I've seen a Court of the Young King get
 wiped out thanks to them.) As you can see I'm a little obsesed with HtH. Oh, and if you can't
 deep strike, get lots of Rhinos. 
 >> 
 >> Well thats my advice, and it works for me. Oh, and build some city terain because Space
 Wolves SLAUGHTER in city fight! You count ALL attacks within 6", which makes a squad
 of 15 charging Blood Claws EXTREAMLY effective. 
 >> 
 >> Any way, if any one wants to comment or point out flaws in my strategy, feel free, and I
 hope this helps people. 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (2 Replies). Moredo[]. 2/1/2002 20:51 (2/2/2002 8:27) 
 >> because i truly love space wolves and believe they should win any battle they enter if im
 controling them or if someone else where is playing, i have made this post!!!
 >> 
 >> Space Wolves players, come and share tips, tactics and show us your army lists. if this
 works your armys will be even stronger!!!
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 >> The Fang
 >> Fenris

 U should go screw ur primarch, he sucks donkey, everybody know my primarch El'Johnson
 beat the crap out of him... 
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           not quite my misinformed brother! . (1 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/2/2002 5:37 (2/2/2002 8:27) 
 >> U should go screw ur primarch, he sucks donkey, everybody know my primarch
 El'Johnson beat the crap out of him...

 Is that Lionel "Ritchie" Johnson you talk of?

 Ah yeah, the one Russ kicked the hell out of?!

 It is well publicised that the ONLY person to have bested Russ in HtH was the Emperor
 himself in the First Crusade...

 So ner ner, ni ner ner ;-p *blows big raspberry!* 
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               RE: not quite my misinformed brother! . (0 Replies). HarkonGreywolf[]. 2/2/2002 8:27 (2/2/2002
 8:27) 
 >> >> U should go screw ur primarch, he sucks donkey, everybody know my primarch
 El'Johnson beat the crap out of him...
 >> 
 >> Is that Lionel "Ritchie" Johnson you talk of?
 >> 
 >> Ah yeah, the one Russ kicked the hell out of?!
 >> 
 >> It is well publicised that the ONLY person to have bested Russ in HtH was the Emperor
 himself in the First Crusade...
 >> 
 >> So ner ner, ni ner ner ;-p *blows big raspberry!*
 

 !!!!!!!!

 KG whappen?
 Where did all those years growing up just disappear to? (lol)
 HG 
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       ====== ALL WOLF LORDS: READ ====== . (0 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/2/2002 14:21 (2/2/2002 14:21)
 Ok it is clear that this post is becoming very large so i propose a new way of sharing wisdom.
 A web site!
 Any Wolf Lord that can Create a (Superior) Web Site plz contact me:

 The_Great_Wolf@Hotmail.com

 Thank you all

 Logan Grimnar - The Fang (Fenris) 
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       ======SPACE WOLVES WEB SITE====== . (0 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/2/2002 15:24 (2/2/2002
 15:24) 
 Yes, you saw sapce wolves have a (temperary) web site copy and paste the writing below
 into your browser

 http://communities.msn.co.uk/TheSpaceWolves 
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       Yeah, I have some advice too! . (0 Replies). TundraWolf[]. 2/3/2002 0:47 (2/3/2002 0:47) 
 i find that in my SW army its all about the transports. mounted every singal model in a traspost
 save venerable dread (ALWAYS USE AS YOUR SECOND HQ CHOICE, why just today
 i had da killa' take down 3 crisis suits in one turn. needless to say i won by turn 3, with the
 enemy only having 10 gun drones left.) also if you use bikes hey i guess dont need transports.
 anyway, weather you plan on shooting or assulting, transports are a must. against 'nids, you
 probably wan to shoot, so rush to a nice forest where you can gun 'em all down then strike
 first in HtH is need be. if you want to assult, transports are an obvious must. also, never
 discount the effectivness of grey hunters wih bolters. they can gun down baddies when needed
 and make good assult troops. also, its more fun to make 1 army list for any opponent, not
 change it every time (i mean i be we could all make a list where he 'nids would NEVER get
 into HtH). its more fun that way, and it forces you to adapt... 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (0 Replies). yellowsign[]. 2/3/2002 1:52 (2/3/2002
 1:52) 
 >> Space Wolves players, come and share tips, tactics and show us your army lists. if this
 works your armys will be even stronger!!!
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 >> The Fang
 >> Fenris

 The army I'm forming is very mobile, with two squads of Grey Hunters in Rhinos (I'm waiting
 for the new Rhino), Long Fangs in a Rhino (so they can shoot out), Blood Claws on Bikes,
 Scouts (who are mobile to begin with), and the killer: a Wolf Lord with a Wolf Guard
 bodyguard in terminator armor in a Crusader. This is a very points heavy unit, but it has high
 mobility, and if you use the Great Wolf, Logan Grimnar, and the Great Company Banner, you
 have 8 terminators (one of which is Logan himself) who can, once per game, charge with a
 minimum of 5 attacks each! (That's 2 (wolf guard)+1 (Charging)+1 (Logan's Call) +1 (Great
 Company Banner). Any unit that survives 40+power weapon/fist attacks on turn one is
 someone you should have avoided anyway! 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (0 Replies). korporalkaos[]. 2/3/2002 3:33 (2/3/2002
 3:33) 
 As Space Wolves is the only army I collect I thought it was a must to add in my 5 cents.

 http://www.mindspring.com/~rhanlav/GUIDE1.html

 This website which I stumbled upon seems to be very god for SW players, and contains over
 16 pages of information! The topics are:
 

 Introduction
 1: Why Wolves & Those Rules
 2: Unit Overview
 3: HQ Units
 4: Troop Units
 5: Elite Units
 6: Heavy Support Units
 7: Fast Attack Units
 8: Weapons & Wargear Overview
 9: Weapons
 10: Wargear
 11: Opposition
 12: Army Composition & Suggestions
 13: Strategies
 14: Down & Dirty Tricks
 15: Painting and Converting
 16: The Credits

 Anyways, home oyu find this valuable. This post was a great idea. Good Luck with future
 battles.

 Korporal KAOS 
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       RE: ========SPACE WOLVES ENTER======== . (0 Replies). Juicebox[]. 2/3/2002 4:41 (2/3/2002 4:41)
 

 / / O---o
 | __/
 / Woof !!! 
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       Awoooo... bang! yike- yike.. . (3 Replies). Coffinshaker[]. 2/3/2002 6:35 (2/3/2002 9:01) 
 Space wolves. The Emperors lap dogs. Ahriman is coming for you, not one day passes, as
 Magnus the Red weaves his web of destiny, plotting to destroy the dog marines. If there's one
 thing I love, it's fighting the fools of the Imperium, thrashing the hopes of mortals. And the dog
 marines are the ones to feel my fury at it's best. :) 

 Be at easy sons of Russ, no pun intended.
 Use them like berzerkers and you'll be fine...
 Nidingar skal falla-Cowards shall fall... 
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           hehe . (2 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/3/2002 6:51 (2/3/2002 9:01) 
 Did you not learn anything from the Heresy when we KICKED YER ASS !!!!!?????

 We did it then, and we will do it again - anytime!

 ;-) 
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               RE: spose yer right (NT) . (0 Replies). coffinshaker[]. 2/3/2002 8:57 (2/3/2002 8:57) 
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               RE: spose yer right . (0 Replies). coffinshaker[]. 2/3/2002 9:01 (2/3/2002 9:01) 
 Yeah, i just think the Thousand sons got the short end of the stick. I play Night Lords, so I
 dont care too much, TS make great sorcerers, though. For being possesed by LOChange!
 Allways like to fight Space Wolves in the new edition, 'cause they were totally horrible in the
 previoys edition. 
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       1450 Pits and a slight problem . (1 Replies). LordCommanderCraigDocherty[]. 2/3/2002 7:23
 (2/3/2002 7:58) 
 >> because i truly love space wolves and believe they should win any battle they enter if im
 controling them or if someone else where is playing, i have made this post!!!
 >> 
 >> Space Wolves players, come and share tips, tactics and show us your army lists. if this
 works your armys will be even stronger!!!
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 >> The Fang
 >> Fenris

 Hello I have recently started collecting the Sons of Russ and request that all you Grey Hunters
 Long Fangs and Wolf LOrds/Priests help out a young Blood Claw. I am facing Tu very soon
 using my Imperial Guard army and Space Wolves, these are fighting along side the honourable
 Ultramarines. The Tau have allied themselves with foul Chaos. Below you will find my army
 list. Plans are to mout The Priest in Land Raider and Rhinos for the Grey Hunters.

 HQ- 288 Points
 

 Wolf Priest 
 Plasma Pistol
 Terminator Armour
 125

 Venerable Dreadnought
 Assault Cannon
 Smoke Launchers
 158

 Elites- 215 Points
 

 Wolf Guard Retinue ( For Priest)
 Terminator Armour and Power Weapons
 215

 Troops-586 
 

 Grey Hunter Squad
 Power Weapon
 Bolters and Close Combat Weapons
 190

 Grey Hunter Squad
 Power Weapon
 Bolters and Close Combat Weapons
 190

 Blood Claws
 Two Power Weapons
 Rhino
 206

 Fast Attack- 140 Points

 4 Bikes
 One Power Weapon
 One Power Fist
 140

 Heavy Support- 229 Points
 Long Fangs
 Bolter and Close Combat Weapon
 Heavy Bolter
 Plasma Cannon
 Lascannon
 Multi-Melta
 229
 I have had great sucess with the Long Fang pack, I split the fire with the Heavy Bolter and
 Bolter destroying Infantry while the rest go Tank-Hunting. Tau firepower is extremly scary
 able to rip apart squads with ease so I have decided to Drop Pod and with my Guard Armies
 Callidus assasain going Etheral Hunting. 
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           RE: 1450 Pits and a slight problem . (0 Replies). HarkonGreywolf[]. 2/3/2002 7:58 (2/3/2002 7:58) 
 >> Hello I have recently started collecting the Sons of Russ and request that all you Grey
 Hunters Long Fangs and Wolf LOrds/Priests help out a young Blood Claw. I am facing Tu
 very soon using my Imperial Guard army and Space Wolves, these are fighting along side the
 honourable Ultramarines. The Tau have allied themselves with foul Chaos. Below you will find
 my army list. Plans are to mout The Priest in Land Raider and Rhinos for the Grey Hunters.
 >> 
 >> HQ- 288 Points
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Wolf Priest 
 >> Plasma Pistol
 >> Terminator Armour
 >> 125
 >> 
 >> Venerable Dreadnought
 >> Assault Cannon
 >> Smoke Launchers
 >> 158
 >> 
 >> Elites- 215 Points
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Wolf Guard Retinue ( For Priest)
 >> Terminator Armour and Power Weapons
 >> 215
 >> 
 >> Troops-586 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Grey Hunter Squad
 >> Power Weapon
 >> Bolters and Close Combat Weapons
 >> 190
 >> 
 >> Grey Hunter Squad
 >> Power Weapon
 >> Bolters and Close Combat Weapons
 >> 190
 >> 
 >> Blood Claws
 >> Two Power Weapons
 >> Rhino
 >> 206
 >> 
 >> Fast Attack- 140 Points
 >> 
 >> 4 Bikes
 >> One Power Weapon
 >> One Power Fist
 >> 140
 >> 
 >> Heavy Support- 229 Points
 >> Long Fangs
 >> Bolter and Close Combat Weapon
 >> Heavy Bolter
 >> Plasma Cannon
 >> Lascannon
 >> Multi-Melta
 >> 229
 >> I have had great sucess with the Long Fang pack, I split the fire with the Heavy Bolter and
 Bolter destroying Infantry while the rest go Tank-Hunting. Tau firepower is extremly scary
 able to rip apart squads with ease so I have decided to Drop Pod and with my Guard Armies
 Callidus assasain going Etheral Hunting. 
 

 Sorry to disappoint you my friend, but if the long fangs are splitting theur fire the Leader
 cannot shoot!! Therefore when your bolter/ccw leader fires he is acting illegally in game terms
 if you are splitting fire. It's in the codex mate!

 Other than that not a bad army list, altho' some will say termies are too expensive, me I like
 them and have quite a few myself, have a look at some army lists on this site:
 http://communities.msn.co.uk/Spacewolves
 It's KrakGrenades site and is coming along quite nicely, has lots of wolfies but other stuff too.

 Harkon Greywolf 
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       ====== WEB SITE ====== . (1 Replies). TheGreatWolf[]. 2/3/2002 15:56 (2/4/2002 6:18) 
 Ok then, it is clear that this post was a tremendous idea. but the post can only go so far. this
 can only show battle lists/ tactics and tips. Sons of Russ, We need to expand. i have created a
 (Very small) Community where we can share painting/conversion tips as well as all the rest of
 the tactics. What is more pleasing than seeing other peoples Great Companies ready to tackle
 the Imperial Foes?
 To get to the Community copy this into your browser

 http://communities.msn.co.uk/TheSpaceWolves/_whatsnew.msnw

 once there you will see little but, if you apply to become a member or staff, things will begin to
 hotten up. you can get YOUR army on the site if your a member. So follow on Wolves! 
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           USe my website - its got everyone there already! . (0 Replies). krakgrenade[]. 2/4/2002 6:18
 (2/4/2002 6:18) 
 Use my website instead!!!!!

 Its already got many of the boards SW players joined up on it inc Gawain, and Harkon
 GreyWolf etc.

 http://communities.msn.co.uk/spacewolves/ 
 

 Loads of pics, conversion ideas and a bit of fluff. Some army lists there too. 

 You know it makes sense! 
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       Bump.... for Ironwolf.... . (0 Replies). smithedw[]. 2/4/2002 5:54 (2/4/2002 5:54) 
 >> because i truly love space wolves and believe they should win any battle they enter if im
 controling them or if someone else where is playing, i have made this post!!!
 >> 
 >> Space Wolves players, come and share tips, tactics and show us your army lists. if this
 works your armys will be even stronger!!!
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Logan Grimnar (The Great Wolf) - Night Runner
 >> The Fang
 >> Fenris 
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